TRUMP, What the hell is going on

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Now this I'm sorry is just laughable. If they had no rights, why on earth would their own government build these massive modern super cities with advanced infrastructures. Around 800 million people out of poverty and still rising.
The China you probably picture, I guarantee is totally different and opposite to you're mindset of China.
It's fine, HK has just become mainland China. Ignoring the HK legislature and any due process.

Good rights those!
 
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Unbelievable.......Trump golfing a day or two ago. :rolleyes:



It's fine, HK has just become mainland China. Ignoring the HK legislature and any due process.

Good rights those!
So you are happy with thugs demanding ''freedom of speech'' and ''democracy'', but yet many normal HK citizens who really just want to get on with their daily lives are set upon and beaten within an inch of their life or being set on fire. No-one is safe, young woman and OAP's are also physically attacked simply because they disagree with what these idiots are doing/saying. Ironic don't you think?
Shops, transport systems having to shut down. People cannot even drive to work as their routes are barricaded.

I'm surprised the CCP even took 10+ months to take action. Probably too busy harvesting organs from Falun Gong members or building more mosques to terrorize the Muslim population.;)
 
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And today the tweets are about Obamagate - a completely invented conspiracy about Obama and Biden spying on Trump. OBAMAGATE MAKES WATERGATE LOOK LIKE SMALL POTATOES

And in addition Trump is spouting what in the UK would be defamatory and libelous bile about Joe Scarborough and the death of an intern 19yrs ago. Indeed the parents of the intern have asked Twitter to remove Trump's tweets on this as they are spurious, unfounded and very upsetting.

And so Fact Check tagging
 

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Funny he can stand back and watch Covid-19 kill tens of thousands of American citizens.
I see this tweet has now been deleted by Twitter for glorifying violence. The big bully baby has now spit out his dummy in a big way with threatening to put in an executive order aimed at removing some of the legal protections given to social media platforms.
In other words, Twitter is fine whilst he spouts his bile, vitriol and lies but as soon as he's pulled up for it then he gets a strop on.
I've said right from the start that this is someone who nobody has said "No" to for a long time. The more I read about him, the more singularly vile he becomes.
 
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I personally don't see the point in Twitter doing this, and I appreciate they aren't aiming at Trump in particular and other political leaders and news organisations would face similar treatment. It's just that he is the poster boy.

But from a Trump point of view, he is just going to play the victim and use the underdog strategy again, like he did 4 years ago. I'll bet secretly he can't believe his luck and I'd 100% expect him to be tweeting things every day now that are close to or across the line.

He'll almost be goading twitter into banning him or deleting his account by tonight.

Problem is it seems everyone has to be polarised these days, whether it's politicians (that once would be on the centre left or right), newspapers and even broadcasters and journalists.
 

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I personally don't see the point in Twitter doing this, and I appreciate they aren't aiming at Trump in particular and other political leaders and news organisations would face similar treatment. It's just that he is the poster boy.

But from a Trump point of view, he is just going to play the victim and use the underdog strategy again, like he did 4 years ago. I'll bet secretly he can't believe his luck and I'd 100% expect him to be tweeting things every day now that are close to or across the line.

He'll almost be goading twitter into banning him or deleting his account by tonight.

Problem is it seems everyone has to be polarised these days, whether it's politicians (that once would be on the centre left or right), newspapers and even broadcasters and journalists.
I think they have to be shown to be even handed. The man is using Twitter as a sounding board for his own publicity and posts things without any proof behind it and people are gullible enough to believe it. Twitter has to do this otherwise they will stand accussed of bowing to bully boy Trump. Trumps ardent supporters will believe whatever drivel he puts on but it might make some people who are unsure think "hang on". And he claims this is an infringement of his free speech yet he personally abuses anyone who posts anything against him, which means he is attacking free speech. Becoming President has turned him into a complete megalomaniac.
 
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I think they have to be shown to be even handed. The man is using Twitter as a sounding board for his own publicity and posts things without any proof behind it and people are gullible enough to believe it. Twitter has to do this otherwise they will stand accussed of bowing to bully boy Trump. Trumps ardent supporters will believe whatever drivel he puts on but it might make some people who are unsure think "hang on". And he claims this is an infringement of his free speech yet he personally abuses anyone who posts anything against him, which means he is attacking free speech. Becoming President has turned him into a complete megalomaniac.
Absolutely, they have to be even handed. But when you start trying to decide what is and what isn't ok, it becomes an impossible task as there will always be things close to the line and grey areas. There will also be tweets that clearly breach the rules, but have such little reach that twitter will probably never see them or have the manpower to tag them.

The use of language is not black and white.

The phrase that's been censored is 'when the looting starts, the shooting starts'. When I see that, I see someone who has a poor grasp of English, not someone glorifying violence. Trivialising it, maybe.
 

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Quite old 'news' (well, yesterday) but surprised no-one has commented on it (or have they?)....

Trump announces US is to withdraw from WHO - cancelling the $400M payment they originally withheld!

Strikes me as barmy, especially in the current environment. Lame, election driven (imo) excuse!
 

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That’s right. Trump is now saying being anti fascist is a terrorist offence.
No he's not. He's saying ANTIFA is a terrorist organisation. And as much as it sticks in my throat, he's right. Its a Marxist communist, anarcho-communist organisation that supports violence to achieve its aims.
 

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Quite old 'news' (well, yesterday) but surprised no-one has commented on it (or have they?)....

Trump announces US is to withdraw from WHO - cancelling the $400M payment they originally withheld!

Strikes me as barmy, especially in the current environment. Lame, election driven (imo) excuse!
Of course its an election driven agenda. Everything this orange balloon does is. The simplicity of this one is that it gives him a great target to pin the blame on for the state of the US Covd situation. Donald Trump takes the Celtic FC stance, always cheated never defeated (it's always someone else's fault).
 

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No he's not. He's saying ANTIFA is a terrorist organisation. And as much as it sticks in my throat, he's right. Its a Marxist communist, anarcho-communist organisation that supports violence to achieve its aims.
Is there an actual organisation, or is it just a movement?
 

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No he's not. He's saying ANTIFA is a terrorist organisation. And as much as it sticks in my throat, he's right. Its a Marxist communist, anarcho-communist organisation that supports violence to achieve its aims.
that's utter rubbish. It's a movement, not an organisation. It has no central leadership. It is mostly peaceful, but there are some in it who believe in violent protests. To call it a terrorist organisation is ludicrous, would you have called the Poll Tax protesters terrorists?
 
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Is there an actual organisation, or is it just a movement?
ANTIFA is not a singular organisation. Nor does it have any structure. It is a loose collection of organisations and individuals whose only thing in common is they wish to rid the world of racism. So it cannot be banned as it is not an organisation. Most anti fascists are not Marxist communist, anarcho-communist or violent.
 

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...Donald Trump takes the Celtic FC stance, always cheated never defeated (it's always someone else's fault).
It was all good until your own blind bias (I hesitate to use the word 'bigotry', but it's likely appropriate) showed. And FWIW my (Scottish) heritage is definitely NOT Celtic (nor Rangers for that matter) oriented!
 
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