Tee time booking and restrictions on how many times a week you can book

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I fully understand that there are new golfers and people of an age that would take a little bit longer and there are some ladies that only play 9 each week - we had 4 spots a day reserved for those people but they refused it and wanted the block booking.

Members are looking into equality laws etc etc and it could get messy
sounds like plenty not going to come out of this covered in glory :( undoes all the good work that had been done previously too, you must be seriously hacked off tbh
 

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The response was “the Ladies have a historic booking on a Tuesday and those ladies don’t play any other time in the week because they get intimidated by the men”

We have a meeting tomorrow and it will be highlighted that every single one of those ladies that are in the reserved booking also managed to book rounds on other days as well - they have shot themselves in the foot and did it very publically
If the ladies are intimidated by some members then there will be men also intimidated. This is not about gender it is about intimidation.
 

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sounds like plenty not going to come out of this covered in glory :( undoes all the good work that had been done previously too, you must be seriously hacked off tbh
Very annoyed mate especially after all the work we did about 4 years ago , the hounding out of the junior player who played of scratch was a disgrace and all because they didn’t like her winning the big Club champs.
Not true, it's textbook indirect sex discrimination and literally the example of how not to do it in England Golf's equality act guidance.
It’s already been cleared that it doesn’t come under any sex discrimination law - it may not be right under guidance but by law it’s fine unfortunately but there are some lawyers going into it.

But there is the big core who don’t want them to play on Saturdays so happy to let them have Tuesday’s - it needs a huge attitude change which is prob years away
 

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Ridiculous. Logged in before 7.00 for the sheet to come out bang on 7.00 and earliest I can get is 1.10 and all gone by 7.06. Think the club needs to start doing what so many other clubs are doing and rationing bookings. People are playing everyday and so those folks working aren't getting a look in
 

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Gender should not come into when you can play or how much you pay. It should be equal for everyone.
Correct, however at my club ( and this is normal times, not right now) it's the women who have refused to give up their weekday morning tee reservation for their play and comps. They are free to play any other time as well.
Currently right now everything is first come first served.
 
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Correct, however at my club ( and this is normal times, not right now) it's the women who have refused to give up their weekday morning tee reservation for their play and comps. They are free to play any other time as well.
Currently right now everything is first come first served.[/QUOTE
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Ladies at ours had to be told in NUT that they couldn't keep there 4 slots of 2 hours 9 half hour buffer as they don't want men behind them, they wanted an hour. they can also book any other time. there are no say when women can't book the only exception being the 10 silver trophy comps but they can play PM as there usually only take up the mornings. We also had to stop the medal role up slots for men, which on the monthly medal which you book yourself and play with your choice of partner (2 a month) was half hour slot at 9am and another at 1pm fore guys who didn't have a partner to play with. Ladies were turning up in those and demanding to play, even though they didn't have comp on as they refused mixed medals. our ladies still think they are hard done by despite not day they cannot play, but have 3 Sat opens where the course is closed the whole day to men.. then there was the winter league they tried to start, baring in mind they already had 8.30 to 9.30 every tues and thursday moring, the ladies section also have there own advanced booking log in, everyone else has to do it FCFS, so they advance booked every Monday, Wed and Friday, you couldn't make it up
 
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Well they made a mess of that... Had a call from the Captain of the Kings it seems they didn't give clear instruction on how many times you could play so has had to call everyone that booked more than 2 times and ask them to cancel them:LOL:
 
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What I have learned over the last 14 days is how unappreciated some members are and also how unaware they are of others members needs also how some just want to act as if it’s normal

We started off 2 balls on 9 holes and only 2 rounds and used the IG limiter they created

First members found a way around it and then told other members how to do it

We then decided to go to 18 holes at the weekend so we then allowed people to book more times during the week but not to go mad - some of course booked everyday

We are now at 18 holes and decided on 3 rounds a week and now people complaining that’s not enough. Just can’t win with some people. They have again found a way to be able to book more than 3 and continue to attempt to book at 4th despite numerous emails - just self self self

And then we add the Ladies - we wanted to have every tee time all week long open for everyone , no block bookings or reserved spots beyond two a day for the people who don’t use the IT - Nope not the ladies , ended up forcing through a block booking on their regular Tuesday spot to create their “Ladies Day” - it’s not gone down well and can see things getting worse and I suspect they are going to lose any ability to play in comps at weekend
At first we were told two rounds in the rolling week, to me, that means 7 days from today, then 7 days from tomorrow, then 7 days from Saturday and so on. It was soon found that once today's round was finished you could book the day after tomorrow (if you had a tee booked today and tomorrow). In the first week we were also very quickly told we could play every day up to the weekend if times were available, which they were because we were on 9 holes with two sets of concurrent tee times. I discussed it with Trev and Simon one evening where I found out the rolling week was In their eyes Sat - Fri. I have no problem with that, and adjusted my bookings accordingly. However, going to 18 holes has seriously reduced any flexibility we had inWeek 1 with two sets of 9 to book, and the seven day period is chockablock from the start. I'd love to play every day if I could, but appreciate the needs to make it available to all members, in my opinion we should go back to 9 holes, at least whilst still on 2 balls, and keep the limit at 3 9 hole rounds in 7 days (not rolling days).
 

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At first we were told two rounds in the rolling week, to me, that means 7 days from today, then 7 days from tomorrow, then 7 days from Saturday and so on. It was soon found that once today's round was finished you could book the day after tomorrow (if you had a tee booked today and tomorrow). In the first week we were also very quickly told we could play every day up to the weekend if times were available, which they were because we were on 9 holes with two sets of concurrent tee times. I discussed it with Trev and Simon one evening where I found out the rolling week was In their eyes Sat - Fri. I have no problem with that, and adjusted my bookings accordingly. However, going to 18 holes has seriously reduced any flexibility we had inWeek 1 with two sets of 9 to book, and the seven day period is chockablock from the start. I'd love to play every day if I could, but appreciate the needs to make it available to all members, in my opinion we should go back to 9 holes, at least whilst still on 2 balls, and keep the limit at 3 9 hole rounds in 7 days (not rolling days).
Basically some people enjoyed the fact they could get out every single day and play golf - whilst many others couldn’t. We opened up the second week at the same time as people were told that when we go to 18 holes people will be restricted to 3 times a week which is more than fair.

When we were at 9 holes we managed to get 476 golfers playing with many playing every single day - moving to 18 holes we have increased that number in the past week to 485 golfers with the average playing 2 times in a week.

We progressed forward in small steps and each time we got more people playing more holes - throughout the first week the main question from the majority was - “when can we go to 18 “

Right now it works - more people are playing and there are still tee times available for people who want to play a 3rd round. Workers are not being punished by only getting two 9’s .
 

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Like everyone else our BRS is nuts when the tee times open at 8PM. I messaged the General Manager today asking him how many new members in the last 2 weeks he said over 40! I am sure most clubs are the same. Hopefully golf can take advantage for the long term.
 

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Members only bookings for the first four tee times in every hour - visitors can book the other two. No restrictions on how many times you can play.
Sure this may have been asked (so apologies) but why are you allowing visitors. We may go to members guest but have no immediate intention to open it up to visitors. The feeling is members have supported the club with their memberships and so for a period of time deserve to have full access to the booking system. Is it a financially driven decision
 

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Sure this may have been asked (so apologies) but why are you allowing visitors. We may go to members guest but have no immediate intention to open it up to visitors. The feeling is members have supported the club with their memberships and so for a period of time deserve to have full access to the booking system. Is it a financially driven decision
I can take visitors to my Away club, also, we’ve had loads of tee slots not taken up at my home club, possibly because it’s spread over a week due to people being off work, so there’s not the normal rush just for the weekend, or some may not like 2-balls only, so I’m aware if slots remain available after a full week of Fourballs, then member guests may be sanctioned, we may as well take some cash if we can rather than just see empty tee slots.
 

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I can take visitors to my Away club, also, we’ve had loads of tee slots not taken up at my home club, possibly because it’s spread over a week due to people being off work, so there’s not the normal rush just for the weekend, or some may not like 2-balls only, so I’m aware if slots remain available after a full week of Fourballs, then member guests may be sanctioned, we may as well take some cash if we can rather than just see empty tee slots.
That may be the difference. We're fully booked every day at the moment, both for two balls at the start and end of the day playing nine holes and all of the eighteen hole slots
 
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Sure this may have been asked (so apologies) but why are you allowing visitors. We may go to members guest but have no immediate intention to open it up to visitors. The feeling is members have supported the club with their memberships and so for a period of time deserve to have full access to the booking system. Is it a financially driven decision
It's a proprietary club and the owner has to balance the needs of members and the cash that visitors bring.
 

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We opened up booking for this friday as the first day 4 balls will be allowed, and most people booking 18 holes rather than 9 as before
Now pretty solidly booked with mostly 4 (a few 3) balls until 6pm.
2 balls only 7.30 until 9am
No guests or visitors as yet

So still really busy but I guess there's still a lot of catching up on golf to do!
Also someone pointed out as a Club with a lot of members being 60+, there are normally a couple of dozen of people who are usually away in Spain or Portugal at this time of year who are now still at home and wanting to play golf.
 

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Noticed this week people adding onto my 2 ball. Not a Problem for me but playing partner is 67 and has been cautious throughout. It’s not the 4 ball more not knowing who they are. We have had emails of people disobeying the Rules at Our club and not social distancing. Just wondered whether members should get a choice.
 

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Noticed this week people adding onto my 2 ball. Not a Problem for me but playing partner is 67 and has been cautious throughout. It’s not the 4 ball more not knowing who they are. We have had emails of people disobeying the Rules at Our club and not social distancing. Just wondered whether members should get a choice.
Doesn’t your partner have the choice of playing or not?
 
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