Should those in the public eye resign for breaking lockdown rules?

clubchamp98

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I voted to leave the EU.
Mainly to get rid of people we didn’t vote for who think they can do as they like!
I think Cummings should be sacked.
Nobody voted for him and he thinks he can do as he likes.
Do we really want people like that making policy for us .
 

clubchamp98

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Jenrick has admitted that he showed bias when he tried to help the owner of The Express and The Daily Star avoid £40m in tax.

That to me is far worse than what Cummings did, and he really should be sacked for that.
If that’s true then I agree he should be sacked.
Unless he’s a part time accountant.
 

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I’m not after a fight, just pointing out the sheer futility of it. And the longer it keeps being discussed, the longer other more important matters are not.

And (mod hat on now) Dave, can we cut out this Dib dib stuff, nobody knows what you are on about 👍
Why pick on my words when there are loads of folk coming out with stuff that none of us can make any sense of? :unsure::unsure:
 

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If that’s true then I agree he should be sacked.
Unless he’s a part time accountant.
Labour has urged the Cabinet Office to investigate why the housing secretary intervened in a controversial London planning decision that could have saved a Conservative party donor tens of millions of pounds.
Robert Jenrick, the housing, communities and local government secretary, knew that the former media tycoon Richard Desmond had only 24 hours to have an East End property development approved before hefty community charges were imposed on the billionaire’s project. The imposition of Tower Hamlets council’s community infrastructure levy (CIL) would have cost Desmond at least £40m.
Jenrick later accepted that approval of the Isle of Dogs project was unlawful.
In a letter to the cabinet secretary, Sir Mark Sedwill, the shadow housing and planning minister, Mike Amesbury, said Jenrick’s decision to back the proposed development was “deeply concerning” and that the Cabinet Office should fully investigate the matter.
“Serious questions need to be answered about why this decision was taken, a decision which could have saved a Conservative donor tens of millions of pounds, and in the process deprived local residents of vital infrastructure funding,” he wrote.
“It’s essential that we have transparency in processes such as this so that trust can be maintained in our housing and planning system.
“I hope the Cabinet Office will uphold this spirit of transparency, do the right thing and conduct a thorough investigation into the events around this decision.”
Documents disclosed earlier this week from the consent order for the development showed Jenrick was aware that the council-imposed CIL would have been introduced on 15 January this year.
Against the advice of his own planning inspector, he gave the go-ahead for the construction of more than 1,500 apartments in a 44-storey complex on 14 January.
CILs were to be used to tax large property developments at £280 per sq metre, with the money raised being used to build schools and health clinics in the council area.
Point 4 of the consent order relating to the project states: “In pre-action correspondence, pursuant to the duty of candour, the first defendant explained the DL (decision letter) was issued on 14 January 2020 so that it would be issued before the claimant (Tower Hamlets) adopt its new local plan and CIL charging schedule.”
Tower Hamlets council took legal action against Jenrick, claiming the timing of his decision appeared to show bias towards the former owner of the Daily Star, Daily Express and Sunday Express.
The council asked the court to order the government to disclose all correspondence between the housing secretary and government officials about the decision.
Jenrick accepted his decision did show “apparent bias” and recused himself from any future decisions over Desmond’s planned residential project on the site of the old Westferrry Road printworks.
One of those who had raised objections to the project was the ministry’s own planning inspection officer, who said the development would damage views of Tower Bridge.
Desmond sold his Express and Star titles two years ago. The 68-year-old’s company Northern & Shell, which is behind the Isle of Dogs development, donated £10,000 to the Conservatives in 2017 and £1m to Ukip in 2015.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ory-robert-jenrick-helped-donor-avoid-40m-tax


The housing secretary unlawfully approved a property development of a billionaire tycoon who once donated to the Conservative Party.
Robert Jenrick has accepted that he showed “apparent bias” when he gave the green light for Richard Desmond to build 1,500 homes in the Isle of Dogs, east London. The timing of the decision meant that the mogul avoided a £40 million bill over the scheme.
Mr Jenrick agreed that planning approval should be quashed after the council initiated legal action against him alleging that the timing showed bias. Mr Jenrick rubber-stamped the scheme against the advice of the government’s planning inspector.
The leader of the local Conservative group resigned over the decision and has called for an investigation.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...backed-moguls-1bn-isle-of-dogs-deal-kxgw67jlj
 

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Quite a decent(?) article in the Guardian. Balanced without being silly. Perhaps more importantly it talks about how the public feels, not an is it, isn't it sort of article.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...nic-cummings-crisis/ar-BB14NSrY?ocid=msedgntp

When Boris was on earlier this week, defending Cummings, I didn't neither agree nor disagree. I just turned him off. For me, Boris has failed at a fundamental level. He has 'burned' my trust in him as a PM. Don't get me wrong, I didn't want him there in the first place but whilst he does sit in that chair I expect him to be honourable and do the right thing. I might not agree with him politically but I want him to succeed for the country. Now, whatever trust I had in him, thin though it was, it is 'burned.'

We're stuck with Johnson for the foreseeable. If he wants to recover anything from this appalling episode he needs to 'take back control' and sack Cummings.
 

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Labour has urged the Cabinet Office to investigate why the housing secretary intervened in a controversial London planning decision that could have saved a Conservative party donor tens of millions of pounds.
Robert Jenrick, the housing, communities and local government secretary, knew that the former media tycoon Richard Desmond had only 24 hours to have an East End property development approved before hefty community charges were imposed on the billionaire’s project. The imposition of Tower Hamlets council’s community infrastructure levy (CIL) would have cost Desmond at least £40m.
Jenrick later accepted that approval of the Isle of Dogs project was unlawful.
In a letter to the cabinet secretary, Sir Mark Sedwill, the shadow housing and planning minister, Mike Amesbury, said Jenrick’s decision to back the proposed development was “deeply concerning” and that the Cabinet Office should fully investigate the matter.
“Serious questions need to be answered about why this decision was taken, a decision which could have saved a Conservative donor tens of millions of pounds, and in the process deprived local residents of vital infrastructure funding,” he wrote.
“It’s essential that we have transparency in processes such as this so that trust can be maintained in our housing and planning system.
“I hope the Cabinet Office will uphold this spirit of transparency, do the right thing and conduct a thorough investigation into the events around this decision.”
Documents disclosed earlier this week from the consent order for the development showed Jenrick was aware that the council-imposed CIL would have been introduced on 15 January this year.
Against the advice of his own planning inspector, he gave the go-ahead for the construction of more than 1,500 apartments in a 44-storey complex on 14 January.
CILs were to be used to tax large property developments at £280 per sq metre, with the money raised being used to build schools and health clinics in the council area.
Point 4 of the consent order relating to the project states: “In pre-action correspondence, pursuant to the duty of candour, the first defendant explained the DL (decision letter) was issued on 14 January 2020 so that it would be issued before the claimant (Tower Hamlets) adopt its new local plan and CIL charging schedule.”
Tower Hamlets council took legal action against Jenrick, claiming the timing of his decision appeared to show bias towards the former owner of the Daily Star, Daily Express and Sunday Express.
The council asked the court to order the government to disclose all correspondence between the housing secretary and government officials about the decision.
Jenrick accepted his decision did show “apparent bias” and recused himself from any future decisions over Desmond’s planned residential project on the site of the old Westferrry Road printworks.
One of those who had raised objections to the project was the ministry’s own planning inspection officer, who said the development would damage views of Tower Bridge.
Desmond sold his Express and Star titles two years ago. The 68-year-old’s company Northern & Shell, which is behind the Isle of Dogs development, donated £10,000 to the Conservatives in 2017 and £1m to Ukip in 2015.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ory-robert-jenrick-helped-donor-avoid-40m-tax


The housing secretary unlawfully approved a property development of a billionaire tycoon who once donated to the Conservative Party.
Robert Jenrick has accepted that he showed “apparent bias” when he gave the green light for Richard Desmond to build 1,500 homes in the Isle of Dogs, east London. The timing of the decision meant that the mogul avoided a £40 million bill over the scheme.
Mr Jenrick agreed that planning approval should be quashed after the council initiated legal action against him alleging that the timing showed bias. Mr Jenrick rubber-stamped the scheme against the advice of the government’s planning inspector.
The leader of the local Conservative group resigned over the decision and has called for an investigation.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...backed-moguls-1bn-isle-of-dogs-deal-kxgw67jlj
Unfortunately that sort of thing dosnt shock me anymore.
Did the investigation go ahead?
 

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Apparently, one 'witness's story was made up for a joke. The other had himself driven to Ascot to collect his daughter.

So the DC saga continues.
 

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She’s still an MP though getting £80,000 a year plus expenses.

She's lost/resigned the whip nothing more...
Not quite - she was a Labour whip and has resigned from that post so she is no longer a member of the Labour front bench. She has not resigned the Labour whip i.e. she is still a member of the parliamentary Labour party.
 

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She’s still an MP though getting £80,000 a year plus expenses.

She's lost/resigned the whip nothing more...
As Ger has said, she has lost a position of authority and she has dropped down the promotion ladder. She can come back from this because she resigned so quickly but in the short term at least she has been tarnished.
 
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