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What's the general view on Clarke? I have to say he seems the most dour and depressing manager that's ever lived. Maybe he'll cheer up if you get to the finals!
Ally MacLeod anyone? I'll have Steve Clarke thankyou - I did the Ally's Army bit - was a home-based footsoldier...and I think I'd rather keep dour and expectations sensible.
 

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I like Clarke, no bullpoo and he gets the job done.
I watched his team beat Hearts at Rugby Park a couple of years ago.
They were very organised at the back with some good young players.
I actually enjoyed watching the professionalism of their tactics and the Hearts players building frustration.
Ex Hearts man MacDonald was their goalie and he had a good game.
Hearts missed a couple of good chances towards the end when the young Killie defenders tired.
Some may call it dour but the defenders are just as important to the team as the glory boy attackers.
 

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What's the general view on Clarke? I have to say he seems the most dour and depressing manager that's ever lived. Maybe he'll cheer up if you get to the finals!
Spineless, negative, boring, but he's starting to deliver so I need to give him credit for that. I'll give him credit for moving Ryan Fraser up top and off the wing as thats clearly worked a treat in the last game.
 
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Spineless, negative, boring, but he's starting to deliver so I need to give him credit for that. I'll give him credit for moving Ryan Fraser up top and off the wing as thats clearly worked a treat in the last game.
No idea what makes you think he's 'spineless' - anyway - I'll take negative and boring if that is what is required to sort things out and have us playing iin a way that at least makes us a bit harder to beat. If by 'spineless' we imply that he's unwilling to take risks...then fine.
 

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He is not a very exciting person to listen to, but who cares?
He has the team getting decent results and that is what matters.
Once you know you are well organised and not leaking goals, that is the time to let your team play with more exuberance.
 
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John McGinn getting talked of in glowing terms by Pat Nevin this morning - verging on World Class apparently. McGinn has gone completely under my Scottish footballer radar - Billy Gilmour I'm aware of as he has received many plaudits - pity he is out injured. Add in Robertson and we're starting to a have a small core to build upon...(must stop my hopes rising...)
 

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John McGinn getting talked of in glowing terms by Pat Nevin this morning - verging on World Class apparently. McGinn has gone completely under my Scottish footballer radar - Billy Gilmour I'm aware of as he has received many plaudits - pity he is out injured. Add in Robertson and we're starting to a have a small core to build upon...(must stop my hopes rising...)
He's not world class but McGinn was an absolute bargain for Villa at around £3 million, when you see Man U playing £80 million for Maguire it puts that cost in persepctive. He stood out a mile at Hibs, at Villa even though he had a bad period last season with injury that Championship playoff winning year for Villa he was great and a standout along with Grealish. This season he's looking more like himself again, the work rate is second to none, great engine. Villa look much better than last year already. Good passer, good runner, good tackler, good shooter, maybe weak with head. Not sure how he'll slot in with Barkley, play similar roles. At nearly 26 should be peaking soon.
£3 million must be worth £25 million now, good investment.
 
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Holy moly. Nosebleed time. Think we used all of our luck up in that game. Would have much preferred to save it for the Serbia game. Still a win is a win.

Carry on like this and we might make the playoffs for the world cup 😂.
 
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As @HG - jings, crivvens, help ma boab...8 in a row undefeated, and last three as clean sheets. We’ll be getting ideas above ourselves - which wouldn’t be that hard as so many of us are so wee...😻
 

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Two superb goals by Manny Duka and Craig Wighton last night in the Hearts v Raith game.
Makes you wonder why Duka is playing at this level.
He's playing at that level cos you stuck by an utter fanny of a manager in Levein and Budge refused to wield the axe on him despite the obvious slapping her right in the face - hence you got relegated.
 

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I think the no fans has helped Clarke big time. The brand and style of football is horrendous. There is absolutely nothing exciting about Scotland. That said I have to credit him as his borefest is working.

Personally I'm not convinced that the Tartan Army would have been as patient and been on the players backs. However we've started to win ugly now and grind which means the fans will be patient and accept what is being served up.

Just don't expect any entertainment or free flowing football.

Last night I thought Ryan Jack was once again an unsung hero, just mops up, breaks up play and recyles the ball extremely well. Players like McGinn can and will get more plaudits but you need that water carrier in Jack to break it up. Also thought McLean was superb when he came on.

Lastly big Andy Considine - no world beater and will never be a first pick but bloody hell two absolutely solid performances and didn't put a foot wrong in 180 minutes. At 33 he deserves his Scotland caps.
 

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He's playing at that level cos you stuck by an utter fanny of a manager in Levein and Budge refused to wield the axe on him despite the obvious slapping her right in the face - hence you got relegated.
Calm down, calm down .....Duka was playing for Raith.:eek:

Eight in a row wow, back to the glory days of Andy Roxborough, remember him, the guy that many Scots thought was useless because he came through the SFA coaching system and never managed a league team.;)
 
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Calm down, calm down .....Duka was playing for Raith.:eek:

Eight in a row wow, back to the glory days of Andy Roxborough, remember him, the guy that many Scots thought was useless because he came through the SFA coaching system and never managed a league team.;)
😂😂😂😂 Raith?

As you've just highlighted my knowledge of Scotland's diddy teams is non existent. 1-0 you.

Slapped back down into my box.
 

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I think the no fans has helped Clarke big time. The brand and style of football is horrendous. There is absolutely nothing exciting about Scotland. That said I have to credit him as his borefest is working.

Personally I'm not convinced that the Tartan Army would have been as patient and been on the players backs. However we've started to win ugly now and grind which means the fans will be patient and accept what is being served up.

Just don't expect any entertainment or free flowing football.

Last night I thought Ryan Jack was once again an unsung hero, just mops up, breaks up play and recyles the ball extremely well. Players like McGinn can and will get more plaudits but you need that water carrier in Jack to break it up. Also thought McLean was superb when he came on.

Lastly big Andy Considine - no world beater and will never be a first pick but bloody hell two absolutely solid performances and didn't put a foot wrong in 180 minutes. At 33 he deserves his Scotland caps.
I can’t bring myself to watch them.

Fair play, though, 3 wins in the last week. But 2 shots on target in those 3 games.....
 

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I can’t bring myself to watch them.

Fair play, though, 3 wins in the last week. But 2 shots on target in those 3 games.....
Stats and lies again.....I think MacBurnie has hit the woodwork three times in his last 4 games.
At least 8 'sitters' missed by the Czechs last night and about 4 for the Scots.
'Enthralling' game to watch and quite unbelievable how we ended up winning it.
Czechs had 2/3rds of the ball.
 

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Stats and lies again.....I think MacBurnie has hit the woodwork three times in his last 4 games.
At least 8 'sitters' missed by the Czechs last night and about 4 for the Scots.
'Enthralling' game to watch and quite unbelievable how we ended up winning it.
Czechs had 2/3rds of the ball.
MacBurnie needs to pull his socks up he's not following the dress code :ROFLMAO:. His peely wally legs look terrible:eek:
 
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Calm down, calm down .....Duka was playing for Raith.:eek:

Eight in a row wow, back to the glory days of Andy Roxborough, remember him, the guy that many Scots thought was useless because he came through the SFA coaching system and never managed a league team.;)
I will always have a soft spot for Roxborough from the 1990 World Cup when Scotland lost to Costa Rica - still the funniest 90 minutes of football I have ever watched.
 
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