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Why does the PFA feel the need to be involved, it’s nobody’s business to say how anyone spends their wages, if the players want to contribute in some way, like all Chelsea players & management have done to Joe Coles campaign, they can, I’m sure many players of all clubs would do so without the PFA involved!
PFA justifying their big salaries would be my guess.
 

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Footballers shouldn't be expected to give money from their salaries, will all the other millionaires around the country give 30% of their salaries up?

There's plenty of Corporations using the furlough unfairly but the heat is on football and footballers which is wrong.

Maybe people will now accept the need to tax the rich more, they have too much money. Not just footballers and football clubs, but all of the millionaires, billionaires, hedge funds and corporations.

This focus on football is pure deflection. An easy target.
 

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Footballers shouldn't be expected to give money from their salaries, will all the other millionaires around the country give 30% of their salaries up?

There's plenty of Corporations using the furlough unfairly but the heat is on football and footballers which is wrong.

Maybe people will now accept the need to tax the rich more, they have too much money. Not just footballers and football clubs, but all of the millionaires, billionaires, hedge funds and corporations.

This focus on football is pure deflection. An easy target.
For whatever reason football receives a disproportionate amount of publicity and attention throughout the media, completely overlooking its actual relevance to society.

Most of this focus is beneficial to the game but the corollary is, at a time like this, it will be in the forefront of criticism and negative comment.

Not saying that it is particularly fair and I agree that there are plenty of other individuals and organisations worthy of equal criticism but they don't court the media to the same extent in more positive times.
 

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There will be a backlash to football and the premier league, whether that is fair or unfair it will happen. Unlike other filthy rich people they are all over social media and some of them have a lot to say without actually doing anything.
Lewandowksi and Pep obviously not included.
 

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For whatever reason football receives a disproportionate amount of publicity and attention throughout the media, completely overlooking its actual relevance to society.

Most of this focus is beneficial to the game but the corollary is, at a time like this, it will be in the forefront of criticism and negative comment.

Not saying that it is particularly fair and I agree that there are plenty of other individuals and organisations worthy of equal criticism but they don't court the media to the same extent in more positive times.
It would be impossible for any football club to stay out of the media. Just because they’re in the spotlight doesn’t excuse this faux outrage and blatant deflection from Hancock and the Govt.

Clubs up and down the country do fantastic things within their communities, players do stuff to, An unnamed local player made a massive donation to Alder Hey Children’s Hospital last week etc. I’d be here all day if I named what others have done.

Football is the #1 sport in this country, it brings people together from every walk of life, watched by millions of people every week. It’s probably the only socialising that’s some people do, families go togethe etc.

IMO football doesn’t need this negativity, it needs to be encouraged to be even more accessible and inclusive.
 

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It would be impossible for any football club to stay out of the media. Just because they’re in the spotlight doesn’t excuse this faux outrage and blatant deflection from Hancock and the Govt.

Clubs up and down the country do fantastic things within their communities, players do stuff to, An unnamed local player made a massive donation to Alder Hey Children’s Hospital last week etc. I’d be here all day if I named what others have done.

Football is the #1 sport in this country, it brings people together from every walk of life, watched by millions of people every week. It’s probably the only socialising that’s some people do, families go togethe etc.

IMO football doesn’t need this negativity, it needs to be encouraged to be even more accessible and inclusive.
I love football myself and have done for over 60 years but that doesn't alter the fact that in the overall scheme of things it is still relatively unimportant.

Many players make very significant contributions to charities and charitable foundations, often anonymously. For this they should be applauded.

However, the outrage is neither faux nor a deflection.

Rather it arose as a result of clubs, rather than players, taking advantage of the Government's efforts to help the employees of companies under extraordinary pressure during this crisis.

I cannot speak for others but my anger is equally directed at other companies guilty of exploiting the system.
 

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It would be impossible for any football club to stay out of the media. Just because they’re in the spotlight doesn’t excuse this faux outrage and blatant deflection from Hancock and the Govt.

Clubs up and down the country do fantastic things within their communities, players do stuff to, An unnamed local player made a massive donation to Alder Hey Children’s Hospital last week etc. I’d be here all day if I named what others have done.

Football is the #1 sport in this country, it brings people together from every walk of life, watched by millions of people every week. It’s probably the only socialising that’s some people do, families go togethe etc.

IMO football doesn’t need this negativity, it needs to be encouraged to be even more accessible and inclusive.
Currently there is no sport at all in this country. Footballers like the rest of us are self isolating but they are still making thousands of pounds every minute. It may be that footballers will not play in front of packed stadiums until we have a vaccine, which may be 12 months off. So as for number 1 sport bringing us together then no we don’t want that.
The government are not running the show either. We are relying on medicine and science to the extent that churches and mosques are closed.

If football is getting negative publicity then it is really simple how they can get themselves out of it.
 

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I love football myself and have done for over 60 years but that doesn't alter the fact that in the overall scheme of things it is still relatively unimportant.

Many players make very significant contributions to charities and charitable foundations, often anonymously. For this they should be applauded.

However, the outrage is neither faux nor a deflection.

Rather it arose as a result of clubs, rather than players, taking advantage of the Government's efforts to help the employees of companies under extraordinary pressure during this crisis.

I cannot speak for others but my anger is equally directed at other companies guilty of exploiting the system.
I disagree Mickie. There is no acceptable reason for Hancock and the Govt to hang the footballers out to dry the way they have, especially when fully paid MP’s have very successful business‘s in the uk and don’t pay a penny in tax.

I think i can safely say the majority think exactly the same as you.

Players who give either publicly or annonymously shouldn’t be given any more credit or applause than what you or I give, whether you or I give £50 or Mo Salah gives £500,000 shouldn’t matter, after all its all relative isn’t it?

Right now football isn’t important, but, Once this epidemic is under control and we move back to our normal everyday life football becomes important again.

I say that as not just the 90minutes, it’s everything around it that goes with it. The friendships, the travelling, the socialising, the communities it positively affects, the local economy etc.

Keep well ol‘ boy👍🏻
 

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Currently there is no sport at all in this country. Footballers like the rest of us are self isolating but they are still making thousands of pounds every minute. It may be that footballers will not play in front of packed stadiums until we have a vaccine, which may be 12 months off. So as for number 1 sport bringing us together then no we don’t want that.
The government are not running the show either. We are relying on medicine and science to the extent that churches and mosques are closed.

If football is getting negative publicity then it is really simple how they can get themselves out of it.
Footballers are getting negative publicity because of Hancock’s unfair comments. No other reason.

Football clubs are drawing the heat because of their greed and furloughing staff, rightly so.

Both are two seperate issues.
 

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I disagree Mickie. There is no acceptable reason for Hancock and the Govt to hang the footballers out to dry the way they have, especially when fully paid MP’s have very successful business‘s in the uk and don’t pay a penny in tax.

I think i can safely say the majority think exactly the same as you.

Players who give either publicly or annonymously shouldn’t be given any more credit or applause than what you or I give, whether you or I give £50 or Mo Salah gives £500,000 shouldn’t matter, after all its all relative isn’t it?

Right now football isn’t important, but, Once this epidemic is under control and we move back to our normal everyday life football becomes important again.

I say that as not just the 90minutes, it’s everything around it that goes with it. The friendships, the travelling, the socialising, the communities it positively affects, the local economy etc.

Keep well ol‘ boy👍🏻
I think it’s the idiotic media who are to blame. They asked Hancock his opinion about Tottenham furloughing staff. He said it isn’t for the like of a multi million pound football club. Which is quite true in my opinion.

The government are allowing medicine and science to decide how we fight this battle. It’s quite clear that society will determine whether we win or lose.

I can tell you love football but how football carries itself during this testing time will also determine the landscape in the future.

As a fellow season ticket holder there is no way I am going to go to a stadium until they have a vaccine.
 

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Footballers are getting negative publicity because of Hancock’s unfair comments. No other reason.

Football clubs are drawing the heat because of their greed and furloughing staff, rightly so.

Both are two seperate issues.
Lets be honest Liverpool’s front 3 and Citys front 3 would not be at the clubs if they were paid £500 a week.

They don’t need us to stick up for them.
 

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Lets be honest Liverpool’s front 3 and Citys front 3 would not be at the clubs if they were paid £500 a week.

They don’t need us to stick up for them.
Neither would Bournemouth’s.

Its obvious we‘re on different paths regarding this subject, I love football and I don’t like to see any footballer of any club being hung out to dry.
 

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Lets be honest Liverpool’s front 3 and Citys front 3 would not be at the clubs if they were paid £500 a week.

They don’t need us to stick up for them.
Which goes to prove the club can afford to pay all its staff and shouldn't be left to its players(employees) to do so
 
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Just to make it clear my anger is not aimed at the players.

It is, however, directed at the clubs and the players suffer some collateral damage through no fault of their own.

If clubs can afford to continue to fully pay the players then they, the clubs, should not expect the taxpayer to pick up the tab for 80% of their non-playing staff.

If the clubs want to ask the players to take a reduction in salary to help pay the wages of the others then that is up to them.

Mind you if I were a player I would want to be certain that the Club couldn't otherwise afford to maintain those wages.

Beyond that it should be up to the players to decide if they, either individually or as a group, make further charitable donations.

So it is clear my gripe is with the clubs and not the players.
 

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Which goes to prove the club can afford to pay all its staff and shouldn't be left to its players(employees) to do so
This decision is not taken by “ football “ side of the club.
It’s been taken by the business side and is purely money driven by accountants etc.
It’s a PR disaster by my club and nothing to do with the playing staff imo.
People outside the game see the 120 million pound transfer fees and make their own mind up.
But if the government try to strong arm clubs then they will need to do it to every business.
Businesses are just following the rules , morals don’t really apply to business usually they just see ££££.
 
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