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Anyone who watched that debate will realise that the Westminster Parliamentary system is not fit for purpose, the people inside would disgrace a P4 classroom.
I totally agree. They have to move out of parliament soon as it is falling down. I'd like them to move to a purpose built building that is in the round, not the current shape. The current design is adversarial and encourages this horrible style of politics. Put distance between the politicians, don't have them face to face. It will not be the total answer but it will be a start.
 

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Miliband lost the 40+ Scottish seats that Labour relied on.
At the 2016 election desperate SLab leaders advised their voters to vote Tory in there weaker seats to keep out the SNP.
This wiped out Labour in Scotland, raised the Tory MP's to 13 and resulted in Corbyn ultimately losing the election.
I believe he was referring to David Milliband, not his useless brother who ended up winning. David is sorely missed, the Labour party would be very different with him in charge.
 

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Didnt lay that wreath
Didnt attend the memorial
Didnt say "woman"

........ I would have thought if he had the balls to stand there and say "Yes I did, as her handling of Brexit is awful" ...he'd be 20 points ahead in the polls by tea time!

But he's just a nasty little terrorist sympathiser..... sadly. The UK needs a decent Leader of the Opposition as much as it needs a decent PM
 

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I just have to step in here. Whilst I believe Corbyn is a socialist moron, he is streets ahead of his right hand woman, Diane Abbott. In his defence, why couldn't he call TM a stupid woman, I call my wife a stupid woman on a daily basis. If TM had called him a stupid man, nobody would have said a word, would they ?

The biggest problem I have with Corbyn is that he has no interest in the country. He has said on more than one occasion he will oppose any deal TM has with the EU. This indicates his only interests are in scoring points. Unfortunately there is an entire generation who haven't experienced the madness of socialism, and they may have to learn the hard way, GOD FORBID !!
 
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I just have to step in here. Whilst I believe Corbyn is a socialist moron, he is streets ahead of his right hand woman, Diane Abbott. In his defence, why couldn't he call TM a stupid woman, I call my wife a stupid woman on a daily basis. If TM had called him a stupid man, nobody would have said a word, would they ?

The biggest problem I have with Corbyn is that he has no interest in the country. He has said on more than one occasion he will oppose any deal TM has with the EU. This indicates his only interests are in scoring points. Unfortunately there is an entire generation who haven't experienced the madness of socialism, and they may have to learn the hard way, GOD FORBID !!
We have not had a socialist government since Callachan in the 1970's, a bit more than one generation, nearer three.
 
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Liking the guy less and less each and every day that passes.

Whatever he said under his breath yesterday - the gracious and decent thing to do would have been to apologise for any offence or upset caused as it was not his intention to cause any - Corbyn and his 'God' alone know the truth of the matter of what he said - and Corbyn will just have to live with any lie he told.

Instead we got the usual guff stuff.

As it happens I somewhat sympathise with his getting totally p'd off with the utter pathetic pantomime going on opposite him in the HoC - led by someone who really should know better - though I do wonder what she does actually know these days. Whatever disdain some of the public might hold Corbyn in for what he may or may not have said - the unbecoming pantomime antics of May and her front and back benchers are deserving of even greater disdain given the mess the government and the country is in.
 
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I totally agree. They have to move out of parliament soon as it is falling down. I'd like them to move to a purpose built building that is in the round, not the current shape. The current design is adversarial and encourages this horrible style of politics. Put distance between the politicians, don't have them face to face. It will not be the total answer but it will be a start.
I would make them sit in alphabetical order regardless of the party they belong to.
 
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I would make them sit in alphabetical order regardless of the party they belong to.
If they want a good example to follow try watching Holyrood.
The MSP's are also much more respectful to each other, with no public school type Yhaa BOO shouting across the floor.
Listened to FMQT on the radio at lunchtime 100% more civilised than London. Even mutual support for other parties points.
The MSP's even allowed Willie Rennie [ daft Lib Dem leader] to nearly finish his question before the hoose burst out laughing at his self promotion.
MSP's are allowed to clap support. Banned at Westminster, they just shout and yell like demented morons.
 

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It's quite interesting to see the disdain felt for Corbyn. I would presume that most posters on this site remember the 70s when we had our last truly socialist government, I suspect this is why. Unfortunately there are those who have forgot all about it, and those who weren't old enough, or even born to witness it. I don't consider myself a Tory voter, but if voting Tory will keep this dinosaur out of No 10 at the next election, I know where my X is going
 

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It's quite interesting to see the disdain felt for Corbyn. I would presume that most posters on this site remember the 70s when we had our last truly socialist government, I suspect this is why. Unfortunately there are those who have forgot all about it, and those who weren't old enough, or even born to witness it. I don't consider myself a Tory voter, but if voting Tory will keep this dinosaur out of No 10 at the next election, I know where my X is going
Strong and stable..... Not sure the current Tory government will be troubling any top 40 lists of the best UK governments ever.
 
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It's quite interesting to see the disdain felt for Corbyn. I would presume that most posters on this site remember the 70s when we had our last truly socialist government, I suspect this is why. Unfortunately there are those who have forgot all about it, and those who weren't old enough, or even born to witness it. I don't consider myself a Tory voter, but if voting Tory will keep this dinosaur out of No 10 at the next election, I know where my X is going
Neither May or Corbyn and their split/broken political ideals/policies/party's should be allowed anywhere near government.
They both should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.
You only have to look at the lists of their other 'leadership' candidates to realise how totally stuffed [for want of a better adjective] we really are.

BTW I would dispute that Blairs government were socialists.;)
 
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If Dr Louise Irvine (National Health Action Party) decides to stand against Jeremy Hunt in the next election then she'll have my vote - that is unless a new centre party arises out of the post-Brexit wreckage of the Tory and Labour parties. Labour? Not with Corbyn there.
 

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Neither May or Corbyn and their split/broken political ideals/policies/party's should be allowed anywhere near government.
They both should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.
You only have to look at the lists of their other 'leadership' candidates to realise how totally stuffed [for want of a better adjective] we really are.

BTW I would dispute that Blairs government were socialists.;)
I am neither a Tory voter, or a fan of TM, but I'm not really sure what she has done wrong. Since being made PM her entire time has been spent sorting Brexit. I am not sure of people realise what a task this is, especially as we are in a position where any scrap thrown has to be accepted. From day one it was always a choice between a poor deal, or no deal at all. I would have preferred it if Cameron hadn't of stated his preference when the referendum was taking place, and then just got on with the job afterwards, but we are where we are.
 
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I am neither a Tory voter, or a fan of TM, but I'm not really sure what she has done wrong. Since being made PM her entire time has been spent sorting Brexit. I am not sure of people realise what a task this is, especially as we are in a position where any scrap thrown has to be accepted. From day one it was always a choice between a poor deal, or no deal at all. I would have preferred it if Cameron hadn't of stated his preference when the referendum was taking place, and then just got on with the job afterwards, but we are where we are.
With May, I would start with calling an unwanted election, bribing a small extremist party for votes, lying and misleading Parliament, breaking up the UK against it's wishes, isolating three of the four UK regions and refusing to work with them and other political parties in a national emergency.
 

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With May, I would start with calling an unwanted election, bribing a small extremist party for votes, lying and misleading Parliament, breaking up the UK against it's wishes, isolating three of the four UK regions and refusing to work with them and other political parties in a national emergency.
Hang on a minute. She called an election because having a greater volume of seats would be beneficial. Of course, she got it wrong, but the idea was good. She had no option but to get into bed with DUP. I don't know what you mean by breaking up the UK. My problem with May is that she is weak, and the post she held prior to PM she failed at. I would love to see Farage running the country, as I would Trump, but that isn't going to happen.
 

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If they want a good example to follow try watching Holyrood.
The MSP's are also much more respectful to each other, with no public school type Yhaa BOO shouting across the floor.
Listened to FMQT on the radio at lunchtime 100% more civilised than London. Even mutual support for other parties points.
The MSP's even allowed Willie Rennie [ daft Lib Dem leader] to nearly finish his question before the hoose burst out laughing at his self promotion.
MSP's are allowed to clap support. Banned at Westminster, they just shout and yell like demented morons.
A good example to follow would not be the baying group of SMPs in westmonster.
 
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