Golf Random Irritations

banjofred

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Actually, I'm known as one of the fastest players at our club. Of course I'm for ready golf. I'm talking about someone parking their cart next to their ball which is twenty yards ahead of me and directly in my line. I often have to yell at them to please move.
Fair enough......they are trying to get killed in that case.
 

davidy233

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One of my minor irritations is playing partners who drive or walk ahead and get in the way before I play my approach. Due to a torn rotator cuff I don't drive the ball very far. I'm usually the shortest player off the tee. However, I rarely miss the fairway and thanks to a good short game I have the lowest index in my regular group. I know they don't do it on purpose, but it happens quite frequently. I always try to stay behind my fellow players whenever they play even if they top or chunk the shot.
Get to your ball - be ready to hit when it's your turn - my irritation would be the opposite, people who stand and wait while someone goes through their pre-shot routine - obviously while moving forward/standing waiting to play you should not be getting in the way though.
 

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I can understand a short hitter getting put off by other people in buggies driving ahead and too close to his line of play.

But, as mentioned above, try standing and waiting behind a group who all stop next to each player and stare at the ball until it's stopped rolling, then have a post mortem about it, then all move on together to the next effort and start that again...

Like having teeth pulled 😬
 

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Wise move to stand behind Fragger when he's playing coz, let's face it, he's got no idea where it's going so how the hell is anyone else supposed to.....:whistle:
 

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If he has, I bet he hasn’t done that with it being filmed and now on YouTube on a popular golf channel. One of my golfing highlights!
Didn't realise you had. Missed that!!!

I managed to hit my second on a par 3 from about 200 yards behind where I teed off from on a previous hole when I thinned it and it hit the ladies concrete tee marker and came back at us nearly taking my PP's out. I couldn't actually get to my ball for ages as we were on the floor crying. Suffice to say didn't score any points
 
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Didn't realise you had. Missed that!!!

I managed to hit my second on a par 3 from about 200 yards behind where I teed off from on a previous hole when I thinned it and it hit the ladies concrete tee marker and came back at us nearly taking my PP's out. I couldn't actually get to my ball for ages as we were on the floor crying. Suffice to say didn't score any points
You should remember, you were there. Watch the video on the Camberley Heath H4H day we did with Rick/Pete....not sure which one of their channels it is on.
 

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Get to your ball - be ready to hit when it's your turn - my irritation would be the opposite, people who stand and wait while someone goes through their pre-shot routine - obviously while moving forward/standing waiting to play you should not be getting in the way though.
Ready golf has many positives, but Hoganman makes a valid point.
In the promotion of walking and standing ahead of the next player, there is a risk of it all going wrong. And it could go wrong big time for someone.
When your pp goes ahead of you and you are now going to smack your 4 wood to the green, imagine if it goes really wrong in that your shot smacks him in the head.
He's a vegetable, and you are in Court being sued with your house and financial security about to go.
No good you saying you are insured- they bailed out long ago on the grounds your actions weren't careful.
No good saying he consented to playing ready golf so he knew the risks.The law and the judge wouldn't wear that one.
IMO, the judge would ask himself, " taking all the circumstances into account, the player being an18 handicap, would a reasonable man say that there was a plausible chance that the ball could hit the claimant. If so, the shout of fore, the players intentions, and anything else apart from a lightning strike
(excuse the hyperbole😀) would not come into it.
I think the judge would find against the player .
Note - the law tends to use the standard of what a "reasonable " man would consider . Not ( as might be argued in this case),another golfer.
I.e. (Joe Bloggs off the street).

You may dismiss this as whatifery and therefore not credible, but many professions do rightly consider whatifery - the law, medical research, etc.

I'm not saying every shot should have all pp behind you every time, but in the keenness to promote ready golf we should not lose our sense of caution.
I have seen it happen, in the desire "to get on with it".
 

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Ready golf has many positives, but Hoganman makes a valid point.
In the promotion of walking and standing ahead of the next player, there is a risk of it all going wrong. And it could go wrong big time for someone.
When your pp goes ahead of you and you are now going to smack your 4 wood to the green, imagine if it goes really wrong in that your shot smacks him in the head.
He's a vegetable, and you are in Court being sued with your house and financial security about to go.
No good you saying you are insured- they bailed out long ago on the grounds your actions weren't careful.
No good saying he consented to playing ready golf so he knew the risks.The law and the judge wouldn't wear that one.
IMO, the judge would ask himself, " taking all the circumstances into account, the player being an18 handicap, would a reasonable man say that there was a plausible chance that the ball could hit the claimant. If so, the shout of fore, the players intentions, and anything else apart from a lightning strike
(excuse the hyperbole😀) would not come into it.
I think the judge would find against the player .
Note - the law tends to use the standard of what a "reasonable " man would consider . Not ( as might be argued in this case),another golfer.
I.e. (Joe Bloggs off the street).

You may dismiss this as whatifery and therefore not credible, but many professions do rightly consider whatifery - the law, medical research, etc.

I'm not saying every shot should have all pp behind you every time, but in the keenness to promote ready golf we should not lose our sense of caution.
I have seen it happen, in the desire "to get on with it".
There is an element of risk in pretty well everything you do. You judge how much risk you wish to take. I've stopped riding a bike these days because I had too many close calls with cars....my choice. It's been a good while since a golf ball has come close to me.....but there is always a chance.....I accept the risk as long at is reasonable. The guy I played with this morning... while hitting his tee shot on the first tee a few weeks ago....hit his wife in the throat as she was standing slightly ahead of him and WELL to the left...he just hit it off the heel and it got her (she played the round anyway).
 

Swango1980

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Ready golf has many positives, but Hoganman makes a valid point.
In the promotion of walking and standing ahead of the next player, there is a risk of it all going wrong. And it could go wrong big time for someone.
When your pp goes ahead of you and you are now going to smack your 4 wood to the green, imagine if it goes really wrong in that your shot smacks him in the head.
He's a vegetable, and you are in Court being sued with your house and financial security about to go.
No good you saying you are insured- they bailed out long ago on the grounds your actions weren't careful.
No good saying he consented to playing ready golf so he knew the risks.The law and the judge wouldn't wear that one.
IMO, the judge would ask himself, " taking all the circumstances into account, the player being an18 handicap, would a reasonable man say that there was a plausible chance that the ball could hit the claimant. If so, the shout of fore, the players intentions, and anything else apart from a lightning strike
(excuse the hyperbole😀) would not come into it.
I think the judge would find against the player .
Note - the law tends to use the standard of what a "reasonable " man would consider . Not ( as might be argued in this case),another golfer.
I.e. (Joe Bloggs off the street).

You may dismiss this as whatifery and therefore not credible, but many professions do rightly consider whatifery - the law, medical research, etc.

I'm not saying every shot should have all pp behind you every time, but in the keenness to promote ready golf we should not lose our sense of caution.
I have seen it happen, in the desire "to get on with it".
I'm no solicitor, but I struggle to agree that the player who hit the ball is liable, unless they hit the ball when the player they hit was virtually right in front of them. A golfer of any ability, but especially higher handicappers, are likely to be off line and could hit somebody way off their line. Imagine a hole, where down the right hand side is the patio with people having a drink outside the club house. A golfer with a big slice may feel that there is a chance that they could hit their ball i that direction. However, is their only option to not play that hole, otherwise they risk being sued?

The golfers walking ahead to their ball do so at their own risk. Most will be able to judge how far they are comfortable to walk ahead, and judge what angle they are at. Most golfers are fairly comfortable as to how far they can walk ahead without putting themselves in too much danger. I suppose the one to be most careful off is the low shank.
 

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doing my usual, good score going , level standing on the 16th tee, block it in the rough on the right, then pull it left into the heather, hack it into a bunker, then duff it out of that, to sing a 20 ft putt for a 6, still get a reasonable cut but very annoying
 

Swinglowandslow

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I'm no solicitor, but I struggle to agree that the player who hit the ball is liable, unless they hit the ball when the player they hit was virtually right in front of them. A golfer of any ability, but especially higher handicappers, are likely to be off line and could hit somebody way off their line. Imagine a hole, where down the right hand side is the patio with people having a drink outside the club house. A golfer with a big slice may feel that there is a chance that they could hit their ball i that direction. However, is their only option to not play that hole, otherwise they risk being sued?

The golfers walking ahead to their ball do so at their own risk. Most will be able to judge how far they are comfortable to walk ahead, and judge what angle they are at. Most golfers are fairly comfortable as to how far they can walk ahead without putting themselves in too much danger. I suppose the one to be most careful off is the low shank.
It could be that you are confusing natural justice with the law.
What we think is reasonable is not always the way the law sees it.😀
 
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