Coronavirus - how is it/has it affected you?

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Now that pubs are open and the weather is fine, people are less inclined to have garden visitors which is a god send.

Neighbours shouldn’t be seen or heard ideally. It was torturous through “lockdown”.
 

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I wasn't quite sure which of the two threads to post this in but this seemed the most likely. Track and trace......

I have been in a few golf clubhouses, cafes since this was brought in. Name and number taken or written in by me. That's it. No mention of where I am sitting in the room, no details of when I arrive or leave. If someone in that room tests positive how will they know if I was near them or even in the room at the same time? Am I missing something or is it being carried out by most in an entirely flawed way? Surely they need to know the time I was in, the location of where I was sat in comparison to the person testing positive?

Does anyone know more about this?

(Before anyone goes for the traditional cheap and political dig, my experience has been the same in both England and Scotland)
 

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I wasn't quite sure which of the two threads to post this in but this seemed the most likely. Track and trace......

I have been in a few golf clubhouses, cafes since this was brought in. Name and number taken or written in by me. That's it. No mention of where I am sitting in the room, no details of when I arrive or leave. If someone in that room tests positive how will they know if I was near them or even in the room at the same time? Am I missing something or is it being carried out by most in an entirely flawed way? Surely they need to know the time I was in, the location of where I was sat in comparison to the person testing positive?

Does anyone know more about this?
We have to put time of arrival and departure in the log at the Clubhouse, haven’t been anywhere else so can’t comment.

I have seen the barcode sign on the doors advertised locally, were you scan it on arrival and that records all details and makes it easier to trace you if required.
 

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Local pub is taking details and noting times of arrival and departure.
Local O'Neils has a QR scan reader to log details and guy at front of house taking details for those without QR reader. Seems to be working well as ordering has to be done via O'Neils app and table service. They seem quite strict on movement, even to the loos and ensuring people follow the direction arrows. How this compares to say 8.00pm on a Friday when it starts getting busy I don't know but definitely working well in the afternoons
 

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I wasn't quite sure which of the two threads to post this in but this seemed the most likely. Track and trace......

I have been in a few golf clubhouses, cafes since this was brought in. Name and number taken or written in by me. That's it. No mention of where I am sitting in the room, no details of when I arrive or leave. If someone in that room tests positive how will they know if I was near them or even in the room at the same time? Am I missing something or is it being carried out by most in an entirely flawed way? Surely they need to know the time I was in, the location of where I was sat in comparison to the person testing positive?

Does anyone know more about this?

(Before anyone goes for the traditional cheap and political dig, my experience has been the same in both England and Scotland)
It seems to be different in every establishment, some have just sign in and contact details, some have sign in and out with a time, some have a bar code system.
Ironically, I recall Wetherspoons saying quite loud and clearly they will be strictly abiding by all the track and trace procedures, the two in Preston city centre I visited had nothing, one looked like it was going to turn into a nightclub at around 9.45pm.
 

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We have to put time of arrival and departure in the log at the Clubhouse, haven’t been anywhere else so can’t comment.

I have seen the barcode sign on the doors advertised locally, were you scan it on arrival and that records all details and makes it easier to trace you if required.
The local Costa had the barcode system but were not promoting it so most people did not notice. I tried to use it but the website it connects to was down so we never ended up being able to use it :rolleyes:.

In the case of your club the timing is an improvement on what I have seen but if they don't know where you have sat that still seems slightly flawed, (no criticism intended of the club who are doing better than every other club I've been to so far, I'm trying to get my head around this). If I came to play at your place, sat at one end of the clubhouse and someone at the other end tested positive, why would I be taking off two weeks from work to quarantine? I am nowhere near that person. When I saw this being used in Germany the cafe they went to made a note of your table so they could pinpoint who sat where and at what time.

Quarantining for 2 weeks is a massive deal, particularly if you work, so if I am getting a call asking for this to happen I want some clear information that I have genuinely been near someone who has tested positive, not just I was in the same building, possibly at the same time.
 

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Most of the places that I've been in seem to be operating on the basis of taking time in/out. From a personal point of view I would definitely not quarantine myself on the basis of possibly being in the same place with someone, I would want confirmed timings.
 

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The local Costa had the barcode system but were not promoting it so most people did not notice. I tried to use it but the website it connects to was down so we never ended up being able to use it :rolleyes:.

In the case of your club the timing is an improvement on what I have seen but if they don't know where you have sat that still seems slightly flawed, (no criticism intended of the club who are doing better than every other club I've been to so far, I'm trying to get my head around this). If I came to play at your place, sat at one end of the clubhouse and someone at the other end tested positive, why would I be taking off two weeks from work to quarantine? I am nowhere near that person. When I saw this being used in Germany the cafe they went to made a note of your table so they could pinpoint who sat where and at what time.

Quarantining for 2 weeks is a massive deal, particularly if you work, so if I am getting a call asking for this to happen I want some clear information that I have genuinely been near someone who has tested positive, not just I was in the same building, possibly at the same time.
All sensible points mate, but I don’t know if the size of the room, distance from the “infected”, what they touched, if they went the toilet 30 seconds (whatever), matter or are taken into consideration when they track and trace.

It might be as black and white as you were there for the same time as them and that’s it.🤷‍♂️
 

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The local Costa had the barcode system but were not promoting it so most people did not notice. I tried to use it but the website it connects to was down so we never ended up being able to use it :rolleyes:.

In the case of your club the timing is an improvement on what I have seen but if they don't know where you have sat that still seems slightly flawed, (no criticism intended of the club who are doing better than every other club I've been to so far, I'm trying to get my head around this). If I came to play at your place, sat at one end of the clubhouse and someone at the other end tested positive, why would I be taking off two weeks from work to quarantine? I am nowhere near that person. When I saw this being used in Germany the cafe they went to made a note of your table so they could pinpoint who sat where and at what time.

Quarantining for 2 weeks is a massive deal, particularly if you work, so if I am getting a call asking for this to happen I want some clear information that I have genuinely been near someone who has tested positive, not just I was in the same building, possibly at the same time.


Isnt everyone able to get tested now. If you get the call then you get tested.

Its advisable everyone who is present on the day gets tested.
 

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Isnt everyone able to get tested now. If you get the call then you get tested.

Its advisable everyone who is present on the day gets tested.
Even if you are filling in once the voluntary covid surveys, if you fill in a symptom then they will offer you a test straight away.
 

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All sensible points mate, but I don’t know if the size of the room, distance from the “infected”, what they touched, if they went the toilet 30 seconds (whatever), matter or are taken into consideration when they track and trace.

It might be as black and white as you were there for the same time as them and that’s it.🤷‍♂️
In terms of all the variations of virus spread I'd expect there to be a blanket, "you were there," reason behind notifications.

For example, is there aircon or blowers in the building? If a sneeze, or even breath, leaves the body at 'x' feet per second, what happens if there's aircon or 'y' number of air exchanges per hour.

The basic calculation of how far a sneeze can travel is fairly straightforward. If S=ut+1/3at(squared), and a sneeze travels at.... think early in the thread I worked it out at 30 feet, without factoring in gravity. Add in your in a pub with zero air exchanges, no aircon, and you get an idea of how vague the guidelines might really be.
 
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