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The GUI (Irish golfing union covering both the Republic and Northern Ireland) released their protocol today, max 3 balls and 14min intervals, but ok to play 18 holes casual golf. Oddly we can have caddies along from our own house but not a regular 4 ball.

• Members with colds or any symptoms of COVID-19 stay away from the golf course/clubhouse.
• Physical distancing rules are observed by all members at all times in the car park, clubhouse and on the course.
• Play is restricted to: - members only - casual golf only (no club competitions or opens).
• Personnel are on hand to monitor adherence with physical distancing rules and the rules for golfers set out in this document.
• Tee times are booked in advance online or over the telephone. Clubs must ensure that players names are recorded on timesheets and timesheets must be kept for a period of at least 6 weeks to assist with contact tracing should the need arise.
• Daily timesheets are restricted to a minimum of 10, 12 or 14 minute intervals. Clubs may only choose one interval for each day. If clubs choose 10+ minute intervals, play is restricted to a single golfer per start time. If clubs choose 12+ minutes, up to 2 golfers may play per start time. If clubs choose 14+ minutes, up to 3 golfers may play per start time. (Note: these measures will result in a maximum of 60 golfers occupying an 18-hole course at any given time, this is around 54% of full capacity in step 1).
• Bars/restaurants remain closed and off-limits as per the Executive’s 5 step plan. Clubhouse access should be confined to use of toilet facilities (provided they can be kept clean) and initial retrieval of golf equipment from lockers.
• There are no social gatherings, of any size, at the facility.
• Members are instructed not to touch the flag or flagstick.
• Rakes are removed from the course. Players are requested to smooth bunkers using their feet or a club.
• Hire trolleys (electric and pull trolleys) must be sanitised prior to each use.
• Caddies are not permitted (exception: where the group of golfers and the caddies are from the same household).

In addition, the following guidelines should be observed:

• Signage should be erected to reinforce physical distancing rules.
• Holes/cups should be altered to facilitate easy retrieval of golf balls.
• Hand sanitisers should be made available.
• Regular cleaning of toilets (on course & in clubhouse) if they are in use.
• Where possible ball washers, bins, sandbags, benches, divot boxes and non-essential furniture should be taken in off the course. Where such fixtures are permanent, they should be taken out of use.
• Where practice putting greens are open, the holes should be filled in or covered, otherwise the greens should be closed.
• Members of the same household should play together, rather than split into mixed groups.
• The use of golf buggies is discouraged. Buggies must be sanitized thoroughly after each use.
• It is strongly recommended that all golf clubs have a policy of allowing juniors to play only if they are accompanied by an adult. In addition, wherever possible juniors should restrict themselves to playing with other members of their own household.
• Clubs will have to consider ways in which social distancing can be facilitated in practice facilities. If such facilities are open, golfers must warm up on their own. Holes must be filled in on the practice putting green(s).
• If necessary, defibrillators should be moved to an accessible area and members should be notified of its new location.

Then as per NI Executive steps, GUI steps and advances towards some sort of normailty.

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Why the 5pm limit, our club is going till 7pm (presume those booking them are aiming for 9 holes.

I played at 5:40 last night and easily round in 2 hours 40mins for 18. Could you look at that to get more in rather than potentially bunching up?
Our club now closes and locks the gates at 7.30 pm so the staff can lock every where else up and go home. We previously has some one living on site who used to do it at the appropriate time according to when it was dusk and or floodlit driving range closed.
 

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Two balls at ten minute intervals. Front or back nine only. Working really well and hope it continues for a good while. Means everyone can have a chance at getting out there.
 

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We are 2 balls every 8 minutes. No problem social distancing whatsoever.
Exactly.
Played a couple of times now in a 2 at 10 minute intervals, and while it's pleasant all being so spread out, there's definitely room to reduce the time gap to get more people a game.

Interestingly, both games have been a little over 3 hours and we just bimbled around. This seems to be echoed a fair bit on here. The answer to slow play is staring us in the face, but personally I'd prefer to play 3s and 4s in roll-ups.
 
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Daily timesheets are restricted to a minimum of 10, 12 or 14 minute intervals. Clubs may only choose one interval for each day. If clubs choose 10+ minute intervals, play is restricted to a single golfer per start time. If clubs choose 12+ minutes, up to 2 golfers may play per start time. If clubs choose 14+ minutes, up to 3 golfers may play per start .
That seems excessively conservative with spacing.
Does the caddie have to be from the same household as all three players in the 3 ball?
 

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Daily timesheets are restricted to a minimum of 10, 12 or 14 minute intervals. Clubs may only choose one interval for each day. If clubs choose 10+ minute intervals, play is restricted to a single golfer per start time. If clubs choose 12+ minutes, up to 2 golfers may play per start time. If clubs choose 14+ minutes, up to 3 golfers may play per start .
That seems excessively conservative with spacing.
Does the caddie have to be from the same household as all three players in the 3 ball?
Irish.....?
 

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Yea GUI.
Daily timesheets are restricted to a minimum of 10, 12 or 14 minute intervals. Clubs may only choose one interval for each day. If clubs choose 10+ minute intervals, play is restricted to a single golfer per start time. If clubs choose 12+ minutes, up to 2 golfers may play per start time. If clubs choose 14+ minutes, up to 3 golfers may play per start .
That seems excessively conservative with spacing.
Does the caddie have to be from the same household as all three players in the 3 ball?
3 golfers any household, caddy from same household as player I believe. It seems stupid to me. I can go catch corona virus in the local Spar store but outside in 110 acres only 50 odd people at once are allowed even though social distancing is more natural most of the time. Tees and greens are the only areas when it needs to be consciously remembered.
 
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I've only played with Mr Mimms so far and I tried to "practice" the 2m rule but kept forgetting!
But tomorrow I am playing with someone from outside my household so I will have to be much more aware
 

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I've only played with Mr Mimms so far and I tried to "practice" the 2m rule but kept forgetting!
But tomorrow I am playing with someone from outside my household so I will have to be much more aware
We had the two ball in front of us on the first tee off and amble down side by side. The marshal was down there like Lewis Hamilton on the buggy. One of the guys would have been very much like the guy in Pathetic Sharks posts and wouldn't have taken kindly to it and the lady marshal can be blunt. Would love to have heard the conversation
 
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10 minutes our place and noticed that with two balls it seems quite hard playing normally to catch the group in front, and so similarly low risk of being caught by the group behind.
 

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10 minutes our place and noticed that with two balls it seems quite hard playing normally to catch the group in front, and so similarly low risk of being caught by the group behind.
so its working then :)

best thing golf could gain from these last few horrible months is decent starting intervals again going forward
 

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so its working then :)

best thing golf could gain from these last few horrible months is decent starting intervals again going forward
You'd think so....
I actually convinced myself of this exact same thing
Alas, greed has already kicked in
5 days in.
Club has reduced 10mins down to 8mins🙄
 

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Does anyone know whether it is permissible to have a shorter gap between 2-balls? My club is operating a policy of 18 holes teeing off between 7.30 and 5.00 so 116 people can play every day. Everything is going well, in fact I loved my first game, millionaires golf, round in just over 3 hours without rushing. Like the old days, 40 years ago.

However some members have suggested that we could reduce to 9 or even 8 minute intervals, while maintaining all of our other measures. Safety wouldn't be compromised and more people could play every day (we have every tee time booked for the first six days). Their argument is that England Golf have produced 'guidelines' not instructions, so the minimum 10 minutes interval isn't mandatory. I'm very sceptical and think we should comply with England Golf until the situation changes.

Also there are rumours (unsubstantiated of course) that some clubs have already introduced intervals of less than 10 minutes.

Opinions would be very welcome
As i read the guidance its a minimum of 10 minutes but more can be allowed.

If u have a lot of members a high demand for tee times and starting from 1 and 10 is feasable then a two tee 9 hole only starting option may work.

I'd be concerned of clubs ignoring the guidelines and risking censure. Worst case wcrnario they or all golf clubs could get closed down particuarly if either r rises or an outbreak is traced back to such a club.
 

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You'd think so....
I actually convinced myself of this exact same thing
Alas, greed has already kicked in
5 days in.
Club has reduced 10mins down to 8mins🙄
Why would you label it as "greed"??

They've tried the 10 minutes and they've realised it's too spread out, so they've reduced it to allow more people to play.
8 minutes is an ample gap for 2 balls.
 

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Why would you label it as "greed"??

They've tried the 10 minutes and they've realised it's too spread out, so they've reduced it to allow more people to play.
8 minutes is an ample gap for 2 balls.
No it's not. I've had to ask our secretary to tell the shop to warn people to keep up with play after two morons held us us on Thursday. They'd already let a single player though. Searching in deep rough for their useless sliced / topped / hooked yes they had no idea where the thing was going off the tee.
 

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No it's not. I've had to ask our secretary to tell the shop to warn people to keep up with play after two morons held us us on Thursday. They'd already let a single player though. Searching in deep rough for their useless sliced / topped / hooked yes they had no idea where the thing was going off the tee.
2 beginners don't represent the whole of golf ⛳, 8 minutes is plenty of time for 2 balls.

Clubs need to keep operating, we all know they're losing out on significant income from various streams, if they can generate a bit of extra revenue now while the sun is shining and there's big demand, well done to them.
 
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