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    Should I go back to Game Improver Irons?

    The season before last, I was playing Ping regular shaft G15 irons, and playing pretty good golf. I went from 19 to 13 in the space of two weeks, and then continued to play to that for the rest of the season. At the beginning of last year, I thought I was a better played than I am, and treated my self to a club fitting and a new set of clubs (Callaway Apex CF16 in stiff). The clubs are lovely to look at, and fly fantastically far when I hit them well, the trouble is that I have been so inconsistent since getting them, I have slipped back to 15, and feel like I'm playing the worse golf ever.

    I do have lessons, and feel OK there, but my swing seems so inconsistent - fats, thins, pull hooks, you name it, that I no longer feel comfortable addressing a golf ball. I have so much going on in my head it's ridiculous. At other times, when I do try not to focus on anything, the swing becomes very loose and destructive, it seems like I can't win.

    I know I can hit these Callaways well, just not well often enough. I've started to wonder whether I should go back to game improver irons. I may lose a bit of distance, and maybe won't be able to shape the ball anymore, but that never bothered me when I was playing the old Pings. Unfortunately, I traded the Pings in against the Callaway purchase to save a few quid so I can't just pull them out of the garage and give them another go.

    Part of me says persevere with more lessons, part of me wants my old clubs (or something similar) back as I spend too much time beating myself up over bad golf and not enjoying the game.

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    Re: Should I go back to Game Improver Irons?

    I've recently done the same thing....got down to 13 and changed clubs, what a mistake. Bought some Cobra one length GI bats and play much better again.

    Golf is hard enough, why make it harder.

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    Re: Should I go back to Game Improver Irons?

    To the original poster - the full range of bad shots you mention you are currently hitting won't be down to the irons or the shafts. Fats, thins, and violent snap hooks or slices won't be down to the irons, they'll be down to the swing and current confidence/mental state.

    All amateur golfers go through good and bad spells.

    Getting the correct clubs and shafts is important, and will change your shape, ball flight and confidence. But if you are spraying it every way possible, that to me says it's a swing issue first and foremost.

    I was the same on Sunday - I didn't know where the ball was going on any shot.
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    Re: Should I go back to Game Improver Irons?

    Maybe try a set thatís half and half.

    Mid cavities in the short clubs, GI in the long ones.

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    Re: Should I go back to Game Improver Irons?

    I got down to 12 and thought I could hit better player irons, struggled like hell obviously. Went back to gi irons (Ping G) and Iím much happier now. I donít care if they donít look real purdy, they get the job done.

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    Re: Should I go back to Game Improver Irons?

    Although fat pings are marvelous, they surely won't be any better with fats, thins or pull hooks...

    But, golf being the bit between the ears torture that it is, once you're not confident, your swing probably gets worse.

    I would have thought that you could easily trade in the callaways for a set of your favourite chunkiest.

    Having said all that, I have upgraded this year from g5 irons to cobra fly z plus (which strikes me as a similar path) and I reckon the cobras are close to as forgiving but much nicer when flushed. But maybe the presence of the fatties in the shed is keeping them honest...

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    Re: Should I go back to Game Improver Irons?

    Did something quite similar to you as well.

    I had a set of Ping G irons which I played really well with, got down to 15 with them. Decided I wanted something a bit more slim line and try get rid of the mega high ball flight so I switched to a set of Ping iE1's. At the start everything was going really well. Played my best golf and got cut down to 12.

    I then started playing really badly, exactly what you are describing. Fat one shot, thin the next, snap hook and then a big one to the right. Had no idea what I was doing so I went back to the Ping G's which I still have. Started playing really well again yet I kept getting massive fliers which I couldn't predict. Two weeks later and I started playing terribly again.

    Switched back to the Ping iE1's and all is good again.

    Turns out it is not the clubs and it is me focusing more on smooth swing and not overswinging.

    The GI clubs may give you a confidence boost but if you put a bad swing on them they will still produce a poor shot. Stick with what you have and keep working on it. Go back to basics, grip, posture and setup. The swing is there, you just need to find it again.
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    Re: Should I go back to Game Improver Irons?

    Quote Originally Posted by pendodave View Post
    Although fat pings are marvelous, they surely won't be any better with fats, thins or pull hooks
    It was a distance thing for me, a semi creamed shot with my pings goes about the same distance as a creamed shot. With better player irons it doesnít get anywhere near there.

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    Re: Should I go back to Game Improver Irons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coffey View Post

    Turns out it is not the clubs and it is me focusing more on smooth swing and not overswinging.
    This I know is me. I need a magic cure for the overswing which has now started affecting my irons as well as woods....... pretty sure a set of old Pings is it

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    Re: Should I go back to Game Improver Irons?

    I agree with the autumn wind.

    The only other point is that confidence is, ultimately, everything; so do what ever you feel you have to do to regain, and retain, confidence.

    I've all but 1 of my 7 sets of irons still and still chop and change between the last 3 from time to time whenever I get a crisis of confidence (or someone posts something on here that triggers it like the post regarding RAC irons that got me considering whether i should try the R9TPs again - so theynare currently back in the bag and doing great!)
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    Pick up balls....

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