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    Re: And, we’re off.......2018/2019

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    Biggest problem will be getting the team to gel. Very difficult to absorb so many new players and get them playing coherently. Having a new manager may actually help with that, all newbies together. To be fair there had to be some sort of reaction after last season. They are certainly getting their signings in early so you will have a full pre season together.
    I can scarcely think of a single example where a team bought 7 or 8 players all at once and it went really well. Usually it's a car crash, or at best, takes them a good 6 months to a year to all bed in and start working.
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    Re: And, we’re off.......2018/2019

    Spoke to some of my family yesterday [all being irons] and they seem happy [ish] with direction of the new management in the transfer market...
    As to whether it stops them getting into the faces of the owners is another matter...
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    Re: And, we’re off.......2018/2019

    They've bought in 3 players that will feature in the First Team. Hardly like they've bought an entire new squad.

    Also, Chelsea seemed to do alright after bringing in 9 new First Team players and a new manager in 04/05. Season before they added 11 new First Team players and came 2nd only to Arsenal's invincibles. In 2011/12 City bought in 6 new players and won the league. Season before that they added 7 new players to the squad and came 3rd. Has happened plenty of times in recent history that teams have made large amount of transfers and done very well.
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    Re: And, we’re off.......2018/2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan2501 View Post
    They've bought in 3 players that will feature in the First Team. Hardly like they've bought an entire new squad.

    Also, Chelsea seemed to do alright after bringing in 9 new First Team players and a new manager in 04/05. Season before they added 11 new First Team players and came 2nd only to Arsenal's invincibles. In 2011/12 City bought in 6 new players and won the league. Season before that they added 7 new players to the squad and came 3rd. Has happened plenty of times in recent history that teams have made large amount of transfers and done very well.
    Both the teams you have mentioned bought top of the tree world class players spending a great deal amount of money - far from comparable

    Just go and look at the list of players they both those teams bought and how much it cost them

    Chelsea - Cech , Robben , Carvalho , Drogba , Ferreira etc - all top class player and some the manager had worked with

    City - Agüero , Nasri , Clichy , Hargreaves plus a few others but really only 3 main first teams and two played in the Prem

    It’s easy just looking at the numbers without looking into it a bit

    The main teams that have done well with large player movements in one window are as you point out - the top teams who spent a great deal amount of money and the players they bought were key

    Liverpool have bought a lot in one window a few times and it’s been awful - even recently , Everton last year did the same sort of signings that West Ham are doing and suspect you could prob look and find more examples of teams buying lots of expensive mid/low level players and struggling

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    Re: And, we’re off.......2018/2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan2501 View Post
    They've bought in 3 players that will feature in the First Team. Hardly like they've bought an entire new squad.
    No, they've signed 5 players already, and at least 4 of them if not all 5 will likely start.
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    Mahrez to City then. Wise buy from Pep? He's not going to be playing in a counter attacking team but a team that has the ball 75% of the time, so without that space to use his pace can he be as effective? Also is Sterling now going to have to compete for a place more?

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    Re: And, we’re off.......2018/2019

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    Made three potentially very good signings, plus the hiring of a more than competent manager in Pellegrini. Fabianski is a more than handy keeper, Yarmolenko is brilliant and if Wilshere can stay fit he'll be a great addition to their midfield. They're building a decent squad if they can keep hold of Arnautovic.
    Indeed, and the French young central defender at £22m is allegedly the real deal too. It looks like there's no place for Kouyate and Obiang going forward but both should recoup significant cask. Kouyate especially, as he's been excellent for us.
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    Re: And, we’re off.......2018/2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpoolphil View Post
    Both the teams you have mentioned bought top of the tree world class players spending a great deal amount of money - far from comparable

    Just go and look at the list of players they both those teams bought and how much it cost them

    Chelsea - Cech , Robben , Carvalho , Drogba , Ferreira etc - all top class player and some the manager had worked with

    City - Agüero , Nasri , Clichy , Hargreaves plus a few others but really only 3 main first teams and two played in the Prem

    It’s easy just looking at the numbers without looking into it a bit

    The main teams that have done well with large player movements in one window are as you point out - the top teams who spent a great deal amount of money and the players they bought were key

    Liverpool have bought a lot in one window a few times and it’s been awful - even recently , Everton last year did the same sort of signings that West Ham are doing and suspect you could prob look and find more examples of teams buying lots of expensive mid/low level players and struggling
    Tottenham had a shocker when they went out and spent the Bale money , Eriksen apart of course.
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    Re: And, we’re off.......2018/2019

    Will Bale be much improved at Real now that bonnie Ronnie has gone? Always seemed he was scared of Ronaldo's shadow, too deferrent.

    Want to see the Bale back that ran Inter ragged all those years ago.

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    Re: And, we’re off.......2018/2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpoolphil View Post
    Both the teams you have mentioned bought top of the tree world class players spending a great deal amount of money - far from comparable

    Just go and look at the list of players they both those teams bought and how much it cost them

    Chelsea - Cech , Robben , Carvalho , Drogba , Ferreira etc - all top class player and some the manager had worked with

    City - Agüero , Nasri , Clichy , Hargreaves plus a few others but really only 3 main first teams and two played in the Prem

    It’s easy just looking at the numbers without looking into it a bit
    None of those Chelsea signings were proven top class players at the time, the City ones fair enough, but not those Chelsea signings. Cech had 2 seasons with a poor Stade Rennais squad, was signed as a deputy to Cudicini and very few knew anything about him before he joined Chelsea, Robben was still a promising but relatively unknown young winger who had only had 1 and a half good seasons at PSV, Drogba had a largely average career other than the previous season at Marseille, and Carvalho and Ferreira were signed purely because of their connection to Jose but again were not proven top class players at the time. Those players are all comparable with the type of player West Ham have bought so far, or if anything the West Ham signings are more proven at the highest level than any of those Chelsea signings were at the time.
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