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    Re: Is always playing stableford stopping you getting a lower handicap ??

    Quote Originally Posted by virgilvdk View Post
    How do some of you escape bans? I mean you , fish , d4s , liverpoolphil to name a few are obnoxious beyond belief . Others are allowed opinions that don't match yours, you can politely disagree you know.
    Perhaps you should read some of the stuff the OP has posted on here before accusing others.
    Having said that I am happy to withdraw the first comment, as such comments are out of character for me.
    But I'd like the OP to address the second point as I am not the first to point this out and he continues to ignore it but carries on insulting those that prefer stableford.

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    Re: Is always playing stableford stopping you getting a lower handicap ??

    Quote Originally Posted by virgilvdk View Post
    How do some of you escape bans? I mean you , fish , d4s , liverpoolphil to name a few are obnoxious beyond belief . Others are allowed opinions that don't match yours, you can politely disagree you know.
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    Re: Is always playing stableford stopping you getting a lower handicap ??

    Quote Originally Posted by doublebogey7 View Post
    Perhaps you should read some of the stuff the OP has posted on here before accusing others.
    Having said that I am happy to withdraw the first comment, as such comments are out of character for me.
    But I'd like the OP to address the second point as I am not the first to point this out and he continues to ignore it but carries on insulting those that prefer stableford.
    What have I missed here, what is what second point ?? Tell me who I insulted ?

    Tell me this is not the old "I'm insulted on someone's behalf" is it ?

    It's a rubbish format, that's my opinion, those who prefer it over strokeplay are copping out in my opinion, still awaiting who I've insulted, not a single person nor member on here but no doubt I'll be the one who takes the wrap cause I question things that certain members don't agree with....

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    Re: Is always playing stableford stopping you getting a lower handicap ??

    Cabby, you are more than welcome to your opinion re the Stableford format and you have voiced that opinion several times, no problem there.

    However being a Forum that caters for golfers of all ages and abilities and persuasions one thing you cannot do is to force it down our throats which is what you are doing at the moment.

    People will disagree with your views, accept it, agree to disagree and move on
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    Re: Is always playing stableford stopping you getting a lower handicap ??

    Quote Originally Posted by PhilTheFragger View Post
    Cabby, you are more than welcome to your opinion re the Stableford format and you have voiced that opinion several times, no problem there.

    However being a Forum that caters for golfers of all ages and abilities and persuasions one thing you cannot do is to force it down our throats which is what you are doing at the moment.

    People will disagree with your views, accept it, agree to disagree and move on

    I'm only countering subsequent replies, I've neither insulted anyone on here nor anyone specifically, but fair enough.

    btw, do you think Fish has noticed I'm ignoring him yet ?

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    Re: Is always playing stableford stopping you getting a lower handicap ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Cabby View Post
    What have I missed here, what is what second point ?? Tell me who I insulted ?

    Tell me this is not the old "I'm insulted on someone's behalf" is it ?

    It's a rubbish format, that's my opinion, those who prefer it over strokeplay are copping out in my opinion, still awaiting who I've insulted, not a single person nor member on here but no doubt I'll be the one who takes the wrap cause I question things that certain members don't agree with....
    I've no problem with the opinion you hold although you would make debate far easier if you backed it up rather than just endlessly repeating your opinion whilst accusing others of "copping out",an insult in my opinion, and one used to stifle proper debate.

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    Re: Is always playing stableford stopping you getting a lower handicap ??

    Quote Originally Posted by doublebogey7 View Post
    I've no problem with the opinion you hold although you would make debate far easier if you backed it up rather than just endlessly repeating your opinion whilst accusing others of "copping out",an insult in my opinion, and one used to stifle proper debate.

    I don't see it as an insult, the whole reason for starting the topic, despite what a few may think, was to change mindsets. I said on a number of occasions, fair enough if that's what you enjoy playing, though that is obviously ignored.

    If you, not you specifically but one can battle away, grind out a score, one will become a better player but if one is given an easy option to "take a blob" then to me, that's a bit of a cop out, an easy option as it were. I also believe I encourage debate more than most on here rather than stifle it, it's just some, just don't like my differing opinion to theirs.

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    Re: Is always playing stableford stopping you getting a lower handicap ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Cabby View Post
    I don't see it as an insult, the whole reason for starting the topic, despite what a few may think, was to change mindsets. I said on a number of occasions, fair enough if that's what you enjoy playing, though that is obviously ignored.

    If you, not you specifically but one can battle away, grind out a score, one will become a better player but if one is given an easy option to "take a blob" then to me, that's a bit of a cop out, an easy option as it were. I also believe I encourage debate more than most on here rather than stifle it, it's just some, just don't like my differing opinion to theirs.
    As I have said I have no problem with your opinion and it does have some merit, but you have on this thread time and time again simply restated your opinion rather than engaging in full debate.

    For instance you say in your original post that playing stablefords restrictes players from lowering their handicap, I and other have pointed out that handicap changes are based on the stableford scoring system so can be used to help players lower their handicaps and each time you have ignored that point.

    Personally I have no problem with either stroke play format, though prefer match play, and feel that both can help us all play better golf if they are approached in the right way. At our club we play an equal number of stableford and medals in official competitions but the main roll up on a weekend is always stableford and almost all the top players at the club play in that one (we have been county scratch league champs more than any other club in the county over the last 25yrs).

    As for the insulting remarks I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on that one.

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    Re: Is always playing stableford stopping you getting a lower handicap ??

    These stableford comps must be more an English thing then cause as I said earlier, we have two a year, or should I say season, and most dislike them.

    I also said in an earlier post where I quoted LP that I actually meant make you a better player rather than the initial handicap lowering. I get why certain players like it but I do suspect cat 1 players would choose strokeplay over stableford any time.

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    Re: Is always playing stableford stopping you getting a lower handicap ??

    Quote Originally Posted by Cabby View Post
    These stableford comps must be more an English thing then cause as I said earlier, we have two a year, or should I say season, and most dislike them.

    I also said in an earlier post where I quoted LP that I actually meant make you a better player rather than the initial handicap lowering. I get why certain players like it but I do suspect cat 1 players would choose strokeplay over stableford any time.
    Iím cat 1, I play either medals or Stableford. They are both strokeplay events. You play a hole, mark the score in the box and move onto the next hole.
    Maybe the fact that lower handicapped players rarely take more than double bogey means we arenít affected by the difference as much as higher, less consistent, handicappers.

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