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    How do Planning guys think - uncommon sense

    How do our planning councils think. Last year the office was planning to build w new building but the planners would only allow about 350 parking spaces for over 500 staff!! Apparently they want people to use public transport. The only issue is that there is no decent public transport nor any easy way from London. Result.. now 100+ cars parked on the road and jostling for space with other offices next door. Looking at next round of expansion the gossip is that we will build in Barcelona.. partly Brexit but partly because it took one year to get some parking space!!

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    Re: How do Planning guys think - uncommon sense

    Same kind of thinking that says we'll reduce waste by greatly reducing refuse collections, we're not going to speak to supermarkets to reduce food packaging, we're not going to supply compost cones, no we're just going to reduce collections.........erm no, waste is still there but now people have to take it to council recycling centres in their multiple fossil fuel burning vehicles themselves at their own cost, no reduction in council tax to account for council savings on reduced services and increased environmental damage as in addition to all the additional car journeys it also encourages burning and fly tipping....but never mind we've saved a few quid there.
    Same time we'll make parking in high streets either not allowed through silly restriuctions or charge extortionate prices so local retail businesses suffer as everyone instead goes to Tesco with free parking. But we'll put busness rates at silly prices too despite customers going elsewhere....hmmmm now all the shops are empty, how'd that happen?

    I know councils are generally skint but they dont win hearts and minds with their less than proactive thinking.

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    The lack of realisation about the practicalities of car spaces is staggering. Huge numbers of new houses being build by me, small driveways big enough for one car only, narrow streets. Carnage ensues as 3/4 bedroom houses with 2-3 cars are parking on pavements on both sides of the road meaning the estates look horrible, cars struggle to get through.

    We are getting a new hotel built in the centre of our town. 14 bed hotel, 6 car parking spaces. Doh. The list goes on.

    I've seen a lot of things passed up here in the last 18 months that make me question the professionalism or plain competence of planners. They surely don't live in the towns where these decisions are being made.
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    Clowns, They're all clowns. Town councils with OAP's sitting on them. Putting things in place that they thought should have been there in the 1960's. We're on the 2000's now idiots!!!!!! Things are massively different!!!!! Millions being spent locally to me re-building our town shopping centre that no one wants. Oh and they're gonna squeeze in a cinema complex that to get to you have to negotiate narrow roads and umpteen traffic lights to get to and from. CLOWNS !
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    Re: How do Planning guys think - uncommon sense

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tyrion View Post
    The lack of realisation about the practicalities of car spaces is staggering. Huge numbers of new houses being build by me, small driveways big enough for one car only, narrow streets. Carnage ensues as 3/4 bedroom houses with 2-3 cars are parking on pavements on both sides of the road meaning the estates look horrible, cars struggle to get through.

    We are getting a new hotel built in the centre of our town. 14 bed hotel, 6 car parking spaces. Doh. The list goes on.

    I've seen a lot of things passed up here in the last 18 months that make me question the professionalism or plain competence of planners. They surely don't live in the towns where these decisions are being made.
    If I remember correctly you may find that they are working under some sort of Government guidance or Council direction. I used to work with Council engineers and they would be more than happy to agree your points over s pint after work but pointed out that the guidance they had to work to had forced the decision they had made.

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    Re: How do Planning guys think - uncommon sense

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue in Munich View Post
    If I remember correctly you may find that they are working under some sort of Government guidance or Council direction. I used to work with Council engineers and they would be more than happy to agree your points over s pint after work but pointed out that the guidance they had to work to had forced the decision they had made.
    Sounds about right. Still bonkers.
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    Re: How do Planning guys think - uncommon sense

    one of my clients is about to start construction on a 35 storey residential tower with 325 apartments. the number of parking spaces is 40! given its location there isn't going to be any room on the roads for the residents to park either
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    Re: How do Planning guys think - uncommon sense

    Quote Originally Posted by Dando View Post
    one of my clients is about to start construction on a 35 storey residential tower with 325 apartments. the number of parking spaces is 40! given its location there isn't going to be any room on the roads for the residents to park either
    Will they be allotted spaces or will it be a daily fight to claim a space?
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    Re: How do Planning guys think - uncommon sense

    Probably not the planners but the Councils planning regulations to blame.

    I once advised on a new golf course building.
    It was an excellent plan, all the right things in place.
    Open farmland, services nearby, good access, high population area, excellent ground conditions and no real competitors
    The only problem the planners brought up was a badger site. The owners tried everything to circumnavigate the problem.
    The badger site was in the worst possible place for the course plan, so the developers had to drop the plans.

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    Re: How do Planning guys think - uncommon sense

    Our driving test centre had to move recently as the lease expires on the building and the owner wants to knock it all down and start again.
    Virtually every site they looked at had great office facilities but, in one case, we're entitled to 1.7 (that's One point Seven!) parking spaces as they were based on the size of the office not how many people would be working there
    They finally found a site with the required spaces but in a completely inappropriate place for learner drivers...
    Parking seems to be a forgotten thing.
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