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  1. #21
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    Re: Ball unplayable - play provisional instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by rulie View Post
    You'll have to identify which "Note" you're referring to. Regardless, it will not permit using a provisional ball, played because the original may be lost or may be out of bounds, as a ball under any of the options of Rule 28. If you were to choose option a under Rule 28, you must return to the previous spot and play from there; you are not permitted to use the provisional once the original ball has been found (which has been pointed out many times already).
    You have still avoided enumerating the consequence on the score.

    My post above fully quoted the note at rule 27-2!

    see. https://www.randa.org/Rules-of-Golf/...ovisional-Ball

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    Re: Ball unplayable - play provisional instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by drdel View Post
    You have still avoided enumerating the consequence on the score.

    My post above fully quoted the note at rule 27-2!

    see. https://www.randa.org/Rules-of-Golf/...ovisional-Ball
    I don't think anyone understands what you are asking....i certainly don't.
    some metal woods,
    any old irons,
    Pick up balls....

    12.2 and moving the wrong way again...

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    Re: Ball unplayable - play provisional instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by drdel View Post
    You have still avoided enumerating the consequence on the score.

    My post above fully quoted the note at rule 27-2!

    see. https://www.randa.org/Rules-of-Golf/...ovisional-Ball
    Sorry I missed that post with the Note.

    I did address what the score would be if you played the provisional ball after finding the original.

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    Re: Ball unplayable - play provisional instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by drdel View Post
    So you're both saying the "Note" from the R&A on rule 27.2 means now't ! But that's wrong because that's exactly what it is there for.
    That Note is there to clarify that strokes made at the provisional ball, while it is still a provisional ball, and penalties incurred solely by playing the provisional ball, are disregarded once the provisional ball is abandoned, ie, once the original ball is found.

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    Re: Ball unplayable - play provisional instead?

    There seems to be a misunderstanding of the 'time saving' element.

    The provisional is only intended to save the time involved in walking back if the original ball is lost or OB.

    It is not intended to save time if the original ball is not lost. It is also intended that the player should not have the choice of two balls if the original is found or is lost in a water hazard.

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    Re: Ball unplayable - play provisional instead?

    A provisional is intended to cover only two situations: If a ball may be lost outside a water hazard or may be out of bounds, R. 27-2a./

    Unplayable is not a situation intended for a provisional.

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    Re: Ball unplayable - play provisional instead?

    This guy can help you. He'd love to hear from you.

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    Re: Ball unplayable - play provisional instead?

    You're not deluded, just out matched.

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    Re: Ball unplayable - play provisional instead?

    I have rephrased my original post:

    The provisional is only intended to save the time involved in walking back
    if the original ball is lost outside a WH or is OB.

    It is not intended to save time if the original ball is not lost.

    It is also intended that the player
    should not have the choice of play if the original is found or is in a water hazard.


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    Re: Ball unplayable - play provisional instead?

    When you play a provisional, you must declare it as a provisional before you hit the ball. That therefore makes it a provisional and not a replayed shot.

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