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    Re: Handicap help

    Didn't want to start another new topic so thought I'd just ask in here as it's related to handicap.

    Our club has an annual handicap review in the diary for this Saturday. As I've just done my first year of club membership, this is the first handicap review I've seen. What normally makes people eligible for a cut at the annual review? I buffered the last four comps with 35, 34, 33 & 32 points. Reckon there's any chance or is it not enough? Haven't had a +0.1 since August. Possible I haven't played enough comps though (about one a month).
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    Re: Handicap help

    Quote Originally Posted by Orikoru View Post
    Didn't want to start another new topic so thought I'd just ask in here as it's related to handicap.

    Our club has an annual handicap review in the diary for this Saturday. As I've just done my first year of club membership, this is the first handicap review I've seen. What normally makes people eligible for a cut at the annual review? I buffered the last four comps with 35, 34, 33 & 32 points. Reckon there's any chance or is it not enough? Haven't had a +0.1 since August. Possible I haven't played enough comps though (about one a month).
    One of those "it's complicated" issues really and the simple answer is to wait and see what happens, don't try and prejudice it!

    In principle, one of the criteria the system will pick up on is the proportion of scores at buffer for any given handicap level. Exact data to trigger a system recommendation is complicated but a 25 handicapper (for example) who plays 10 comps and is in his buffer every time would almost certainly trigger a recommendation for a reduction. A scr golfer with the same stats probably wouldn't!
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    Re: Handicap help

    Quote Originally Posted by duncan mackie View Post
    One of those "it's complicated" issues really and the simple answer is to wait and see what happens, don't try and prejudice it!

    In principle, one of the criteria the system will pick up on is the proportion of scores at buffer for any given handicap level. Exact data to trigger a system recommendation is complicated but a 25 handicapper (for example) who plays 10 comps and is in his buffer every time would almost certainly trigger a recommendation for a reduction. A scr golfer with the same stats probably wouldn't!
    Ok, thanks. Not really trying to predict it, just interesting to see if it's possible. I guess there's a chance, I'll wait and see.
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    • Cleveland RTX Rotex 2.0, 56°
    • Odyssey Works 1W putter
    • DX2 Soft
    H'cap Jan Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Dec end yr review
    2017: 24 24.1 24.2 24.3 24.4 22.8 22.9 22.9 21.9

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    Re: Handicap help

    Quote Originally Posted by jim8flog View Post
    Initial handicaps no longer use the double bogey calculation. It is now twice the par. So a 6 on a par 3 will remain as 6
    Really? Since when?
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    Re: Handicap help

    Quote Originally Posted by Digger View Post
    Really? Since when?

    yep, news to me as well and I couldn't find anything on the Congu site.

    This is the only change I can see...

    http://www.congu.co.uk/congu-changes-2018/
    Last edited by Cabby; 04-Jan-2018 at 16:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Digger View Post
    Really? Since when?
    Since the first of January this year. It is part of the revised handicap system that has come in to force.

    The info can be found in the FAQs on England Golf Website relating to the changes.

    Remember it was always triple bogey for ladies so would have gone up to triple bogey for men if they had kept the existing calculation method
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    Re: Handicap help

    Note this is only for initial handicaps.

    The net double bogey rule will still apply to players with a handicap.
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    Re: Handicap help

    Just did a quick check to insert a link and found the revised (2018) UHS manual is available for download. You will find it in there and section J Congu club Handicaps has been deleted.
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    Re: Handicap help

    Quote Originally Posted by jim8flog View Post
    Initial handicaps no longer use the double bogey calculation. It is now twice the par. So a 6 on a par 3 will remain as 6
    Quote Originally Posted by Digger View Post
    Really? Since when?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabby View Post
    yep, news to me as well and I couldn't find anything on the Congu site.

    This is the only change I can see...

    http://www.congu.co.uk/congu-changes-2018/
    The 2018 CONGU manual is available online for download from the England Golf website.

    https://www.englandgolf.org/page.asp...e=Handicapping
    Last edited by rosecott; 04-Jan-2018 at 17:36.

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    Re: Handicap help

    Well blow me down. There's going to be some bandits knocking around now
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    Titleist 915 F 3 Wood 15*
    Titleist 915 H Hybrid 21*
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    Cleveland Rotex 2.0 - 52,56,60
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