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    Re: shaft lean at address - help or hindrance

    Quote Originally Posted by bobmac View Post
    Try this drill
    Hit the front ball and not the back one.







    Maybe start with the balls a bit further apart to begin with or use a rolled up towel as the back ball. Elf and wotsit
    I was at the range this evening. Tried this drill. It certainly is very good. I used an 8 iron first. Hit 2 very good irons that felt like great contact with maybe a little lower flight. Then the third I caught the back ball and spooked myself.

    I then used a screwed up business card which was a lot safer.

    I will be using this drill again in future.


    With next to no shaft lean and this drill I am heading in the right direction. The amount of fats were well down. hallelujah lol
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    Re: shaft lean at address - help or hindrance



    This kinda feeling with the takeaway certainly helping to reduce the poor fat contact.
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    Re: shaft lean at address - help or hindrance

    Quote Originally Posted by garyinderry View Post
    I was at the range this evening. Tried this drill. It certainly is very good. I used an 8 iron first. Hit 2 very good irons that felt like great contact with maybe a little lower flight. Then the third I caught the back ball and spooked myself.

    I then used a screwed up business card which was a lot safer.

    I will be using this drill again in future.


    With next to no shaft lean and this drill I am heading in the right direction. The amount of fats were well down. hallelujah lol
    Keep grinding away. Sounds like progress being made

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    Re: shaft lean at address - help or hindrance

    the avoidance drills are pretty useful to get reasonable -AoA with the irons so hands/handle a tad before the clubhead & then giving optimum strike & "compression"

    my take to that tend to have folks try this with a folded bag towel apron 4" behind the ball - having a golf ball a tad further back can for a lot of folks be a tad of a scary distraction & plays with confidence - some folks are ok with that but many are not especially in the confines of a driving range that have some hard surfaces around so ricochets are possible

    my take - don't really advise any fairly big forwards leaning shaft at set-up as that has a tendency to bring active wrist break real early along with a lack of width goin to the top
    would more look to a set up with the irons that the lead hand is more overtop of level with the front half of the ball so the shaft is just a tad off vertical

    it's a good lower body upper body arms sequence & weight pressure transfer that will deliver good impact conditions

    having a tad too strong a grip can tend to play into issues with good impact conditions as the strong grip will take loft off of the face as well as look 'left' so the natural reaction for most index players having issues tends to mean the shaft gets presented ways too vertical in order to both keep some club face loft & also stop the face angle closing down so the strike is then not from the optimum part of the club face from optimum "compression"

    if the grip hold is overstrong the only ways around this is the body "opening' motion folks will see in players like 'dj' & others (but in actuality dh's grip hold is not 'mega' strong in the general scheme of things

    but really only 2 ways around a heavily strong grip - one being changing the ways the body moves with weight pressure transfer - so not hanging back on the trail side - but getting to the lead side with the hips & upper body then opening so can still present some 'loft' & 'squareness' of face angle to target so the hands/handle & shaft don't raise up too vertical into impact

    the other ways is a grip hold change

    both these 2 options offer the chance to get those better impact conditions with the hands/handle a tad in-front of the clubhead
    but if the grip hold is favoring the super strong although more work the better option is a grip change even if that change puts the grip hold back to being just a tad strong more in the 'dj' ballpark
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    Re: shaft lean at address - help or hindrance

    Video trying out the 'fat avoidance drill'. I have moved away from using a back ball bob for the obvious health and safety reasons. May well take a towel today as that head cover was a little too big. Did the Job though. Hit two near the end which did catch the cover but the angle of attack must have been good because they came off well and felt solid.

    Got 100 balls yesterday and hit maybe 60 with 8 and 6 iron. Happy to say only a handful were obvious to me that I was catching the mat before the ball. Last week that number would have been the complete reverse.

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    Re: shaft lean at address - help or hindrance

    Two shots hitting target. Cold wind off the left. I can make this work on the course. Finally getting a handle on the low point.

    Thanks for the help lads.

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    Titleist 714ap2 8-gap
    Vokey SM 6 56* 14*bounce
    Titleist sm5 k grind 60* 11*bounce
    Lee Trevino Napa style putter
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    Re: shaft lean at address - help or hindrance

    Dont be scared to 'take the divot' and thump the mat after contact
    Listen for the thump
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    Re: shaft lean at address - help or hindrance

    Quote Originally Posted by bobmac View Post
    Dont be scared to 'take the divot' and thump the mat after contact
    Listen for the thump
    Will do. Should be back there today to continue the work. Course is obviously still closed with the snow and freezing temps.

    Probably been avoiding too much of a downward blow with me recent troubles of landing behind the ball.
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    Titleist 913 F 16* 4 wood
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    Titleist 915 27* hybrid
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    Titleist 714ap2 8-gap
    Vokey SM 6 56* 14*bounce
    Titleist sm5 k grind 60* 11*bounce
    Lee Trevino Napa style putter
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    Re: shaft lean at address - help or hindrance

    Nice hitting station set up here. has your towel trick and balls set up to work on path and strike.

    I may make this from foam balls instead. I'd say I could take a pile of them balls out like skittles in the bowling alley. Lo,

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    Re: shaft lean at address - help or hindrance

    Titleist 915 D4 10.5*
    Titleist 913 F 16* 4 wood
    Titleist 913 19* 5 wood
    Titleist 915 24* hybrid
    Titleist 915 27* hybrid
    Mizuno Fli Hi JPX (2012) 6 & 7 (or ap2 6&7 iron)
    Titleist 714ap2 8-gap
    Vokey SM 6 56* 14*bounce
    Titleist sm5 k grind 60* 11*bounce
    Lee Trevino Napa style putter
    handicap updated to --(2017)8.2---8.4---8.2---8.0---7.8--

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