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    Re: World Cup 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpoolphil View Post
    I think you have it spot in regards the system

    It is very limited and was exposed as soon as the team faced someone with real quality - the signs were there against Colombia

    A 4-3-3 would be a good start with

    Pickford/Pope

    Trippier/Alexander Arnold
    Maguire/Gomez
    Stones /Lacelles
    Rose/Sessegnon

    Henderson/Dier
    Alli/Ox
    Lallana/Loftus Cheek

    Sterling
    Kane
    Lingard/Rashford

    You still need to find some other players and hopefully people like Brewster and Foden can come through plus Jadon ( at Dortmund) even players like Lookman - quick skilful wide player

    England have a strong base to work with but think 3 at the back will harm them - the two losing semi finalists played 3 at the back
    Or to put it another way - 50% of the semi-finalists were playing 3 at the back. That shows that it works.

    Did you forget Walker exists or something? Or were you trying to tell us Trent is a better right back?
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    Re: World Cup 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Orikoru View Post
    The ref was poor last night but not in a way that really affected the result.
    Thought the foot was high studs showing for their first.
    seen many of them disallowed.
    All the refs have been weak and have let the players bully them.

    Second goal wasn’t really Stones fault McGuire was behind striker and could see everything.
    Schoolboy error.

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    Re: World Cup 2018

    The tactic was not the problem, it was the mentality after half-time, which was also the problem against Colombia. The tactic works.
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    Re: World Cup 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan2501 View Post
    The tactic was not the problem, it was the mentality after half-time, which was also the problem against Colombia. The tactic works.
    tactics worked in the first half when we attacked them .
    But not the second half when under pressure a back four is better imo.

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    Re: World Cup 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan2501 View Post
    The tactic was not the problem, it was the mentality after half-time, which was also the problem against Colombia. The tactic works.
    The tactic failed massively last night.

    Players asked to play out from the back - kept getting into dangerous positions.

    Kane asked to drop deep - he had no baring on the game for second match in a row.

    Sterling playing further forward - runs aimlessly into blind alleys, no end product.

    Lingard playing deeper to help Henderson - not his position at all, he's a forward.

    He has the basis of a good system but it isn't there yet.

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    Re: World Cup 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by Kellfire View Post
    The tactic failed massively last night.

    Players asked to play out from the back - kept getting into dangerous positions.

    Kane asked to drop deep - he had no baring on the game for second match in a row.

    Sterling playing further forward - runs aimlessly into blind alleys, no end product.

    Lingard playing deeper to help Henderson - not his position at all, he's a forward.

    He has the basis of a good system but it isn't there yet.
    We need one or two top quality midfielders to make the breakthrough from youth level and we have the basis of a half decent team.
    The slight lack of quality on the ball really showed last night, but I’m proud as buggery of them though.

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    Re: World Cup 2018

    Credit to Croatia for playing a very solid game. They pressed very high from very early in the game, stopping England from playing out from the back. I thought that would create lots of space but they managed the space very well, forcing England to kick long or play lots of back passes.

    Did Alli and Lingard freeze or were they just marshalled out of the game, and maybe didn’t have the experience to pull the Croatian team out of shape? Do England only have a plan A?

    Captain? Not knowing what impact Kane has on the pitch, as a captain, I couldn’t say the armband should be taken off him. However, I was mightily impressed with the way Maguire marshalled the defence and midfield when the ball was being played from the back.

    England came up against a team that was stronger, and better. If it was boxing, I’d say Croatia won the first half on points by a very narrow margin, and then dominated the second half for long periods. England landed a good knockout blow in the first half and had several opportunities in the second half to do the same but failed to capitalise.
    Give it big humpties

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orikoru View Post
    Or to put it another way - 50% of the semi-finalists were playing 3 at the back. That shows that it works.

    Did you forget Walker exists or something? Or were you trying to tell us Trent is a better right back?
    Belguim went to a back four to get past Brazil and England virtually played with a back four against Sweden

    And no didn’t forget Walker - I have never really rated him - he is quick and I believe that’s it , his distribution is poor , his positional sense is poor and he has too many mistakes which is pace helps him get through

    Looking forward with Trippier and AA England could have two of the best right backs in Europe


    Anyway was listening to the Radio and they were talking team and player of the Comp

    For me Player is Mbappe ( could change in the final )

    But the team for me is

    Pickford

    Trippier
    Maguire
    Varane
    Pavard ( yep two right backs )

    Henderson
    Modric
    Kante

    Mbappe
    Griezmann
    Peresic

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    Re: World Cup 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by therod View Post
    Just laugh at the sad, sad little men, in their funny skirts, with their funny way of speaking
    Casual racism at it's best. Sad and no surprise from you and unfortunately still tolerated by mods as humour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val View Post
    Casual racism at it's best. Sad and no surprise from you and unfortunately still tolerated by mods as humour.
    no different to the other comment at Doon the other day as well.

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