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    By the same reasoning, Bale wouldnt have been picked for the CL final either.
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    Ok then by that theory Rooney was Awful for England because how many goals did he score at an actual tournament.. most were in friendly against useless teams

    A quick google says he had 7 goals

    Kane has 6 in this tournament alone

    Pen or not his bottle alone to take them on that stage shows why he is the man.. why he is finally an England captain we can look up to and respect

    Zero respect for wazza. The way he treated his wife.. way he came accross isnít the same as Kane who just seems the most likeable bloke and someone you wouldnít mind your daughter dating

    Sterling is useless at certain things but he does have pace and dribbling .. if we could just train him to dribble and then simple side pass we would destroy teams
    Youíre correct, Rooney did flop at major tournaments as did the other 10 with him and why youíre missing the point!
    England are doing well at this tournament and
    people are unfairly criticising 1 player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pauldj42 View Post
    Youíre correct, Rooney did flop at major tournaments as did the other 10 with him and why youíre missing the point!
    England are doing well at this tournament and
    people are unfairly criticising 1 player.
    Although only an opinion, I feel the criticism of Sterling was valid in the first two games. He was awful. But in the last 2 games, apart from (horrendously) missing golden scoring opportunities, he's been very good. And the last 2 games have been against decent opposition.

    Southgate was obviously seeing things in training that Sterling wasn't taking to the matches. Good on Southgate for sticking with him, and good on Sterling for turning it around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColchesterFC View Post
    Earlier in the tournament you were saying that you wanted Young replaced by Rose. Surely the argument you make about Sterling could equally apply to Young. He's played in all the sames games as Sterling and so the same argument is valid - he's been on the pitch when England have played their best football and England have won all 4 games with him in the team so why change him? Surely Southgate, who has just got his team to a World Cup semi, knows a bit more than you in your armchair at home.

    Some people think Sterling has been given enough chances and has fluffed his lines so give someone else a go. If there's one thing you can guarantee it's that football will split opinions. Some people would have started with Dier instead of Henderson but Henderson has proved himself over the last four games. Some people almost certainly didn't have Pickford as first choice but again he's proved them wrong. People are going to have different opinions, some of which will be based on club loyalties others not so much.
    I guess my point didnt come across the way i was trying to make it

    During the early group stages the performances of the team were a little bit scratchy even with the wins and after they played against Belgium it looked to me like Rose could be one that could a player to give a little bit of a balance - i dont think Young has played badly just think he narrows the field a little BUT as with Lingard over the past two KO games whilst neither have shone they seemed to have done some very vital work and maybe unseen by supporting Henderson - Young dropping inside and Lingard dropping a touch deeper to support Henderson and give him support in numbers and strength , with the width coming from Sterling

    So overall i think since the group stage Southgate has got the balance right in regards the formation ( something i also dont think gets the best out of them ) to get the results even if its not using the players to their best ability. Every player you can see is working so hard , such a togetherness that hasnt been seen since 96 and a team that people actually like and even the non England fans get behind them and want them to do well .

    So it seems a bit sad and awful IMO when certain people continue with a tirade against one player which goes against the whole ethos the England have grown of being together - you can see how hard Sterling is working and his runs are world class and he is desperate to do well and score but whilst he isnt scoring his playing his part very well and has actually played very well over the last couple of games but people wont or cant see past him not scoring , if there was someone who has lit up the prem all season long itching to come on then maybe they would but there isnt and i dont see Rashford or Vardy doing the same runs Sterling is and its all a bit sad when England get to a stage they havent done for a long time and the team is playing wall as a team and people want a change to be made - they made changes against Belgium and it resulted in a defeat.

    There is no problems with people questioning managers and players but to do it when the country is celebrating getting so far and for it to be the same player just seems to smack of vindictiveness and when it seems its clear that Southgate is fully appreciative of what Sterling is bringing to the table - even more so when it a suggestion that the country believes Southgate is wrong because the fans are saying it. The scapegoat has been well and truely formed no matter happens now Sterling will be the victim and if England win it will be suggested it will be in spite of him - quite sad really when people suggest everyone should get behind the team
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    Phil. People are behind the team but there is massive frustration at his ability to finish any move off. He is, as you say, making good runs and getting into decent positions but he has wasted every single one of his scoring opportunities. At this level that is just not good enough and it could cost England a game. Itís like a golfer who is awesome tee to green but never makes a birdie. I hope he scores a hat trick in each of the next two games because it means England win the World Cup but itís looking very very unlikely (him scoring that is)
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    LP, were is this tirade against Sterling on this forum? There are a few opinions that suggest that perhaps there are better options available in the Squad.

    Im old enough to remember the Jimmy Greaves who har in 1966 and that was certainly a major talking point.

    They are just opinions and it's good to see you have now changed your mind and show an interest in the England team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captainron View Post
    Phil. People are behind the team but there is massive frustration at his ability to finish any move off. He is, as you say, making good runs and getting into decent positions but he has wasted every single one of his scoring opportunities. At this level that is just not good enough and it could cost England a game. Itís like a golfer who is awesome tee to green but never makes a birdie. I hope he scores a hat trick in each of the next two games because it means England win the World Cup but itís looking very very unlikely (him scoring that is)
    agree with this.
    Sterling is trying hard and doing well in the game but if he is to play ďsecond striker ď and get ahead of Kane he MUST finish off the moves.
    Alli never played that well yesterday but the chance he got he scored very similar to the one Sterling missed that Stones put away in the group match.

    I wasnt a fan of Sterling when he played for Liverpool so nothing new.
    His finishing is not going to improve overnight , I hope he proves me wrong but canít see it.

    I hope he scores two hatricks in the next two but canít see it.

    Think heís a marmite player you either like him or you donít itís split but as some have said is there a real in form replacement as others have played and not stepped up so while weíre winning play the same team.

    We have a fabulous chance here I just hope the boys can take it would be great for all the young players around the country to see an England team win the World Cup.

    bring it home boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Skier View Post
    LP, were is this tirade against Sterling on this forum? There are a few opinions that suggest that perhaps there are better options available in the Squad.

    Im old enough to remember the Jimmy Greaves who har in 1966 and that was certainly a major talking point.

    They are just opinions and it's good to see you have now changed your mind and show an interest in the England team.
    Are you saying you were cant see the constant critisim from certain areas regardless of how he plays ?

    Many people all over social media were saying that Sterling has played well over the past couple of games , including ex players and pundits alike

    Yet on here the same people continue with the same line against him - it happened before he even kicked a ball before the friendlies before the world cup and it hasnt changed , one poster even suggested that the overwhelming thinking was Rashford for Sterling - started a poll and hey presto its not

    and here is a selection from another poster who goes at Sterling every game regardless of how he has played , some of the posts even before half time or even after ten mins of the game

    You having a laugh 😂
    If anyone can argue he should have a starting place after that performance is a joke.
    Shambles of a player, double rammel fits nicely as well

    Absolutely, where is Southgate with his massive shepherds crook? What a waste of a place in the team

    I think itís already been widely accepted that Englandís defence is average at best, Sterling though is being carried in this current team imo. He makes a few decent tippety tappety passes but apart.

    Mate, Sterling could score a hat trick and I still wouldnít rate him

    Heís absolutely rammel, gets in the way of other players at times and offers very little in the way of intelligent football.


    Even seen on social media people wanting him injured so he cant play - its pathetic

    Maybe its the faceless social media way these days say you support yet mouth off against the players you claim to support.

    Southgate has instilled a one team attitude - shame about some in the fan base.
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    I'd just like to say, when Yorkshire play well, England play well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezerk View Post
    I'd just like to say, when Yorkshire play well, England play well
    Itís the Barnsley influence 😁

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