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    Re: Juniors in Menís comps

    Quote Originally Posted by Cabby View Post
    You'll win nothing with kids in this game.....oops, sorry wrong sport.
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    Re: Juniors in Menís comps

    Bit of a spin on the OP..... I used to play at a Proprietary Club, where the ladies section was fairly active, 40 or 50 in Comps regularly... most were Seniors and double digit handicap... the Owner's daughter played at another club and was in the County Squad....

    (by now you've guessed it!!) Once a year, she'd turn up and win the Ladies Club Champs at a canter.... mass walk out by year 3! Poor girl wasn't keen on it, but the old bloke was a bit of a megalomaniac! They argued she wasn't a member and hadn't paid subs. Dad said this is my course, like it or lump it! Most lumped it!
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    Re: Juniors in Menís comps

    Quite shocked by the level of negative opinion about juniors playing in adult competitions and my experience at several golf clubs has been somewhat variable in terms of when they can play and what they can play in and who they can play with.

    Hands down the best club approach was the one that allowed any junior with a proper handicap to play any time of day and in any competition that they wanted provided the card was marked by an adult.

    They do not win that many competitions and like any new player they improve quickly so it all evens out - how many adults have you seen go on a run and win a few before the handicap catches up ?

    My son developed his game and the love for the game in this environment and has gone close in the club champs as well as a junior (joint leader after round 1).

    Any restrictions should simply not happen if we want to encourage and develop youngsters into a game which teaches so many positive life skills.

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    Re: Juniors in Menís comps

    i couldn't care less who they are. if they're playing off the same tee's as me then thats fine. i think some on this thread just dont want the embarrassment of a 13 year old handing them their ass in a comp

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    Re: Juniors in Menís comps

    At my club if males are under a certain handicap (18 I think) they can enter. They don't pay to enter and can't win cash.
    Over the winter we have medals open to all and they calculate men's, women's and junior's CSS.

    Clubs that exclude juniors need to take a look at what they are doing for the future of the game.
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    Re: Juniors in Menís comps

    Quote Originally Posted by El Diablo View Post
    Quite shocked by the level of negative opinion about juniors playing in adult competitions and my experience at several golf clubs has been somewhat variable in terms of when they can play and what they can play in and who they can play with.

    Hands down the best club approach was the one that allowed any junior with a proper handicap to play any time of day and in any competition that they wanted provided the card was marked by an adult.

    They do not win that many competitions and like any new player they improve quickly so it all evens out - how many adults have you seen go on a run and win a few before the handicap catches up ?

    My son developed his game and the love for the game in this environment and has gone close in the club champs as well as a junior (joint leader after round 1).

    Any restrictions should simply not happen if we want to encourage and develop youngsters into a game which teaches so many positive life skills.
    I have to agree. Back in the late 70's and early 80's when I was a junior, it was a real struggle to be allowed to play in adult competitions and juniors were treated contempt and we were forced to hang out in the locker room or snooker room. In the end we were allowed to play with a handicap of 18 but it wasn't met with universal joy from the adult members. We were lucky that myself and a crop of other juniors were pretty decent and anything from 14-2 and so could usually hold our own. It seems that at some clubs time hasn't moved on

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    Re: Juniors in Menís comps

    Quote Originally Posted by hovis View Post
    i think some on this thread just don't want the embarrassment of a 13 year old handing them their ass in a comp
    ....yep. That's it. Thread closed!
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    Re: Juniors in Menís comps

    Just looked it up. Juniors can enter comps at our place - great! They have to have at least one adult in the group. Fine! But they (generally) have to have a handicap of 12 or less. Going to be asking why?

    Ok, l can see some sort of argument around those juniors who have very high handicaps and are improving rapidly. So, they may scoop a couple of prizes in quick succession? But the h/c secretary's scissors will be snipping their handicap quite quickly, so they won't be doing it for long. Unless they are getting very good, in which case they deserve the prizes & titles.
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    Re: Juniors in Menís comps

    Juniors can enter adult comps but must have an adult marking or in the group

    There are other restrictions though:

    For run of the mill comps they have to be off 12 or less

    For the 'majors' they have to be off 5 or less

    If there is a junior comp on the same day they have to enter that unless they are off 5 or less

    This is not necessarily as bad as it sounds as it givez them something to aim for, and there are plenty of junior members & comps

    At other clubs I've been at juniors can enter any adult comp and are eligible to win them all

    The main reasons I've heard from members are:

    - they only pay 1/10th the membership.fee so why should they win adult comps? (personally don't agree with this)

    - juniors improve too fast, especially at half term (and grow) so they have an unfair advantage (fair play to them I say)

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    Re: Juniors in Menís comps

    Juniors at our place have handicaps off the same tees as adults and can play in nearly all the competitions. They have their own Club Championships and so cannot enter the adult one. Never occurred to me any of that was an issue - seems to work fine.

    Only wish we had more juniors members !

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