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    Ball bounces out winter hole

    So whats the ruling for when it's the temporary greens with the 4 inch winter bucket holes, and the balls is putted into the ball and it hits the bottom of the cup and bounces out?
    Is it dead, or the hole not finished yet?

    Have seen this happen too many times to not have a definative answer.
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    Re: Ball bounces out winter hole

    Definative answer lies in the definition of 'holed

    And if it bounces out it is not holed...

    A ball is "holed" when it is at rest within the circumference of the*hole*and all of it is below the level of the lip of the*hole.
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    Re: Ball bounces out winter hole

    Quote Originally Posted by Bunkermagnet View Post
    4 inch winter bucket holes.
    Did you mean 9" ?

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    Re: Ball bounces out winter hole

    Quote Originally Posted by rulefan View Post
    Did you mean 9" ?
    Don't know their exact dimensions, other than they are'nt a normal size, just bigger and seemingly shallower.
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    Re: Ball bounces out winter hole

    Well the regulation size is 4.25" diameter.

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    Re: Ball bounces out winter hole

    I've never heard of clubs using different diameter holes in the winter. Shallower, certainly (and that's what increases the chance of a bounce out), but still 4.25" in diameter.
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    Re: Ball bounces out winter hole

    The point of winter cups is to counter the poorer surface of most winter greens. Why would they be the same size?

    The are commonly produced in 6" - 9" sizes (occasionally upto 15") and are normally full depth.

    See examples

    http://www.sherriffamenity.com/produ...-Hole-Cup/579/

    https://www.bmsproducts.com/collecti...ant=1217552961

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    Re: Ball bounces out winter hole

    Have to be honest, never seen any bounce out in our larger temp green holes. The ruling is clear though. Mind you on some of our temps getting it into the hole is a bigger lottery of it staying in there

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    Re: Ball bounces out winter hole

    When we used to have the larger size. Bounce out was quite common and it was one of the reasons we switched to standard size holes.

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    Re: Ball bounces out winter hole

    Quote Originally Posted by jim8flog View Post
    When we used to have the larger size. Bounce out was quite common and it was one of the reasons we switched to standard size holes.
    Could another reason be more significant? Qualifiers cannot be played with non conforming holes

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