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    Re: Spain's Shame

    Quote Originally Posted by Doon frae Troon View Post
    Spain is more likely to be suspended by the EU for using violence on it's own people. [Who attacked them with votes.]

    Petty anti Scots point scoring when folk are getting battered about the head for wanting to vote is not classy

    FYI Scotland is a Country and Catalonia is a region.
    Think the Catalans would say otherwise...
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    Re: Spain's Shame

    Catalunya has pursued independence for almost 100 years. The last non-binding referendum was in Nov 2014, the result being 81% in favour of independence but with a turnout of only 35%. Sept 2015 saw the region's elections - a bit like the devolved parliament in Scotland. Although the pro-independence party won the majority of the seats it did not gain the majority of the votes. Understandably, the central govt trumpeted this as a "no" to independence. But Catalunya's version of Sturgeon has trumpeted it as a major show for independence.

    As far as the Spanish High Court is concerned the independence voting is unconstitutional if it isn't sanctioned by the central govt, and the current President is a little, er interesting when it comes to democracy.

    Spain's shame; horrendous scenes in the media. Could have been handled far better/differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doon frae Troon View Post
    FYI Scotland is a Country and Catalonia is a region.
    You could say Scotland is a Region of the UK... if you wanted to. Catalans would disagree with your comment as much as you'd disagree with the first comment here. Scotland had a free vote - and elected to stay part of UK.

    If Spain didn't recognise the Referendum, they could just have ignored the result.

    WHY did they react the way they have? Disgusting.

    Surely Spain are in breach of EU Law here. I don't expect any sanctions though, but we'll see
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    Re: Spain's Shame

    Quote Originally Posted by Doon frae Troon View Post
    FYI Scotland is a Country and Catalonia is a region.
    Are you sure, you have history on being wrong about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegaSteve View Post
    Think the Catalans would say otherwise...
    There are also several Spanish Islands that claim to be Catalonian.

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    Saw it last night and it was disgusting, having seen it first hand during the miners strike. Governments including our own can be very insistent on getting there own way.
    not very pleasant at all.
    oh ah, some very informative info on Catalan written on here.

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    Re: Spain's Shame

    Don't be surprised if the Galicians and the Basques follow their lead, although potentially even more problematic for the Basques as their reqion spand France and Spain.Spain could lose a large part of its land mass, if all 3 are successful.

    The republic of Merseyside, are watching closely.

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    Re: Spain's Shame

    Quote Originally Posted by Liverbirdie View Post
    Don't be surprised if the Galicians and the Basques follow their lead, although potentially even more problematic for the Basques as their reqion spand France and Spain.Spain could lose a large part of its land mass, if all 3 are successful.

    The republic of Merseyside, are watching closely.
    What about Burgundia?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doon frae Troon View Post

    Petty anti Scots point scoring when folk are getting battered about the head for wanting to vote is not classy

    FYI Scotland is a Country and Catalonia is a region.
    No petty point scoring. My point is that the Scots assume to be able to join the EU on a yes vote for independance, whereas the Catalans know and assume going independent of Spain would mean they are out of the EU and would have to reapply to get it.
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    Re: Spain's Shame

    Not sure what is worse, Spain's oppression of the referendum or the people in our country trying to stop democratically decided outcomes (Remainers/Corbynisters)

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