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    making lessons stick

    how on earth do you make the lessons you take stick...

    I have had 6 lessons with my new pro and I swear the stuff I learnt in lesson one has been pushed out by the stuff on lesson 4..

    lesson 1 and 2 was all irons.. I was hitting some beautiful iron shots... nice slight draw at the end.. good distance on them aswell.. very consistent

    next was driving... my driving then improved.. started to hit some beautiful drives.. straight and far

    I managed to hit some decent rounds but was really let down by my short game... massively.. I managed one round where I was striking my irons so well I was on a lot of greens in reg but in the most my short game would let me down

    so I decided lets have a short game lesson

    my wedges felt great from there.. but here is where its all gone wrong

    my irons now completely shank and loose distance..

    the shot he likes me to produce with my wedge is a slice style swing from out to in.. produces a great flight but has completely ruined my irons.. I cant seem to hit from the inside anymore

    driver is hit and miss now.. ive lost about 50 yards of distance but flights semi decent

    so I went back for a iron lesson.. its made them worse.. he got me "on plane" with my irons.. rather than going back to what we did before we did something new that I just cant bloody get it clicking... just come in from the range completely beaten

    I started off on the chipping green... nice wedge shots

    went on range hit some irons.. shank shank shank

    so got the driver.. some nice little draws .. whilst the distance loss is still there the flight was nice so ill take that

    back to irons.. shank shank shank... managed to get about 15 (out of the 55 iron shots I hit) flying nice however to a grand total distance of 100 yards with a 7 iron!! (which before the short game lesson I was hitting 130 nicely)

    tbh I feel dejected

    whilst I have won my past 2 events it feels rubbish because I cant actually hit an iron! I played the last 2 rounds using driver, woods, hybrids then wedges.. so basically the gap in my bag is 4 hybrid (goes about 150) to PW which goes 100 yards

    nice 50 yard gap there
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    Re: making lessons stick

    Like you, I have found that sometimes you can have this with lessons. I have found it works better for me to concentrate mainly on the swing rather than specific clubs, and by getting the swing right for me to then appply it to the different clubs. You do have to accept that sometimes one part of your game won't play ball and be in line with the rest of your game, but thats just golf.
    When practising though, I will just pack up and leave rather than continue when I am unable to correct something that has moved into my swing. Practising "in" an issue only leads to self taught correction which leads to more problems I find.
    Forever trying.

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    Re: making lessons stick

    Did u ask him why he wants you hitting nice draws with your irons but slice swings with your wedges?

    Is that full shots with wedges?

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    Re: making lessons stick

    Quote Originally Posted by garyinderry View Post
    Did u ask him why he wants you hitting nice draws with your irons but slice swings with your wedges?

    Is that full shots with wedges?
    Finesse shot with wedges nothing more than 3/4 and a slice swing to have more control on the wedges but draw on irons for more distance and better connection

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    Re: making lessons stick

    What has your pro said about shanking your irons?

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    Re: making lessons stick

    How often do you have the lessons?

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    Re: making lessons stick

    Every 7 weeks now,

    Pro says try to hit inside of ball and if ness line up out the heel and focus on hitting out the face

    He did say shanks are due to me having the face to open and I need to close it.

    I feel progress in every single club bar the irons which should be the easiest!!!

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    Re: making lessons stick

    It’s an uphill battle golf. What one lesson cures, another problem appears.
    And it’s an endless cycle of that. One lesson could be a repeat of another but reiterated in another way.
    Have the lessons, practice what you where told, video yourself to make sure do what you were taught. Create a new fault. And then another lesson. Repeat.

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    Re: making lessons stick

    I usually work on the range post lessons and grind in drills or the changes. Once the back is better I have to shorten the swing, take it inside and flatten the wrist. I know what Paul wanted me to do but found it hard to make it stick. I hope that I can get it sorted and really change the swing this winter. Historically changes have bedded in prettily easily so back to the range and grinding it out. I'm hoping no other issues will creep in

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    Re: making lessons stick

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesbrown View Post
    It’s an uphill battle golf. What one lesson cures, another problem appears.
    And it’s an endless cycle of that. One lesson could be a repeat of another but reiterated in another way.
    Have the lessons, practice what you where told, video yourself to make sure do what you were taught. Create a new fault. And then another lesson. Repeat.
    Truth!
    Sometimes the faults come from over exaggerating the changes, as you say it's an endless battle

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