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    Confirmed squad out. I don't know why it has surprised me, but actually seeing it on paper confirmed makes me realise just how think on the ground we are. Disappointed to see Malan and Vince in over Hales but other than that can't argue.

    My side for the first test would be:

    Cook
    Stoneman
    Vince
    Root
    Balance
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Ali
    Woakes
    Anderson
    Broad

    Would be v surprised to see anyone with a different view other than the spots at 3 and 5.

    Pleased for Overton, Ball and Crane, but I really hope the main 5 bowlers are fit and firing!

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    Disappointed that Leach didn’t get picked - taking wickets again - think a good number more than Crane but I think Leach is going to be another Somerset player that will not get the call up he deserves. Prob would have got selected if he played at Surrey etc

    Very pleased for Overton though

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    Joe Root (Yorkshire) captain
    Moeen Ali (Worcestershire)
    James Anderson (Lancashire)
    Jonny Bairstow (Yorkshire)
    Jake Ball (Nottinghamshire)
    Gary Ballance (Yorkshire)
    Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire)
    Alastair Cook (Essex)
    Mason Crane (Hampshire)
    Ben Foakes (Surrey)
    Dawid Malan (Middlesex)
    Craig Overton (Somerset)
    Ben Stokes (Durham)
    Mark Stoneman (Surrey)
    James Vince (Hampshire)
    Chris Woakes (Warwickshire)

    Overton, Foakes and Crane are fine with me. Vince and Ballance?!?!

    Can't help thinking our middle order is wafer thin here.
    Who would you take in place of Balance and Vince ? I don't think the selectors have many options !
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDiablo View Post
    Confirmed squad out. I don't know why it has surprised me, but actually seeing it on paper confirmed makes me realise just how think on the ground we are. Disappointed to see Malan and Vince in over Hales but other than that can't argue.

    My side for the first test would be:

    Cook
    Stoneman
    Vince
    Root
    Balance
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Ali
    Woakes
    Anderson
    Broad

    Would be v surprised to see anyone with a different view other than the spots at 3 and 5.

    Pleased for Overton, Ball and Crane, but I really hope the main 5 bowlers are fit and firing!
    I agree. bowling looks a little one dimensional. Shame Crane will be carrying the drinks. I'd have liked him to be getting overs under his belt for the lions. For me, the selection says that they want to mould a new number three and Root wont move from 4. I don't mind Vince, arguably Joe Denly would have done enough through the season to warrant a place above Vince, Hales and Malan.

    No surprises really. Feel really sorry for your mate. Just as his career was on a swift ascendency too !!
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    Who would you take in place of Balance and Vince ? I don't think the selectors have many options !
    i would've taken Joe Denly. Ok, he's only playing Div2 but hes a decent player and scored a few runs this year.
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    I agree. bowling looks a little one dimensional. Shame Crane will be carrying the drinks. I'd have liked him to be getting overs under his belt for the lions. For me, the selection says that they want to mould a new number three and Root wont move from 4. I don't mind Vince, arguably Joe Denly would have done enough through the season to warrant a place above Vince, Hales and Malan.

    No surprises really. Feel really sorry for your mate. Just as his career was on a swift ascendency too !!
    Yeah he is pretty inconsolable atm. We tried getting him out for a few beers at the weekend but he doesnt want to know for a couple a weeks. Middlesex have been great though apparently so fingers crossed he gets back fit soon.

    As I said earlier in the thread, completely agree with Crane. Waste of a winter if he doesnt play at a stage in his career where he should be bowling loads and developing fast.

    Pretty clear Root doesn't want to bat 3! Which is a shame as I would personally like to see Foakes with the gloves batting at 7 and Bairstow in at 4 as a specialist batsmen. Stokes/Ali are easily good enough for 5 & 6 and Foakes is a special gloveman who can actually bat when he applies himself. Averaging over 40 with 'Rey this season.

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    Hard to understand the fascination with Crane.

    Foakes has been selected ahead of Buttler or Billings on current form so why Crane and not Leach?

    Are the authorities still concerned about his action?

    The batting situation is reminiscent of the 90's when we kept going back to the likes of of Ramprakash and Hick without ever finding an answer.

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    Re: Ashes 2017/18

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    Who would you take in place of Balance and Vince ? I don't think the selectors have many options !
    Agree there's not a lot to choose from.

    For me, Hales should have gone, not Ballance. Someone tweeted Ballance's last 25 test innings: 18, 23, 1, 0, 29, 6, 61, 0, 32, 14, 6, 43, 23, 70, 28, 8, 17, 1, 9, 9, 5, 20, 34, 27, 4. Average 19.16. Hales's average probably won't be much better tbh, but I think he's a better bet.

    Vince is a gamble, big time. Very average summer at average of 33. The reason appears that quick Aussie wickets suit his style. . If you're Westley, you have to be disappointed to be dropped for Vince. Sam Robson is another name banded around?

    TBH, not many names are banging down the door.

    Let's hope Crane gets a decent run and not just a tea-boy.

    If Stokes gets charged then another slot available....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpoolphil View Post
    Disappointed that Leach didn’t get picked - taking wickets again - think a good number more than Crane but I think Leach is going to be another Somerset player that will not get the call up he deserves. Prob would have got selected if he played at Surrey etc

    Very pleased for Overton though
    Just seen averages for spinners. Leach miles ahead. You have a point LP.
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    Hard to understand the fascination with Crane.

    Foakes has been selected ahead of Buttler or Billings on current form so why Crane and not Leach?

    Are the authorities still concerned about his action?

    The batting situation is reminiscent of the 90's when we kept going back to the likes of of Ramprakash and Hick without ever finding an answer.
    I reckon it is his action that selectors are worried about. Has he been called for throwing this season ? Don't think he has.
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