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    Re: Would You Believe It !

    Quote Originally Posted by rosecott View Post
    Why are you highlighting what anyone involved in handicap administration is well aware off. You said it was down to poor course design but course design was irrelevant
    Poor SI allocation

    I didn't mean the actual physical course design
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    Re: Would You Believe It !

    Great link.

    Who's course splits the stroke index to odd on one nine and even on the other nine? Is this set in stone or can it be changed. I'm looking at ours and trying to figure out a way of moving the SI18 from the first and yet sticking to the links guide of all even to be on the easier nine. Moving SI18 would mean it would have to go on the back nine. now
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    Re: Would You Believe It !

    It is a recommendation only.

    "Stroke Index Recommendation Rule of Golf 33-4 requires Committees to “publish a table indicating the order of holes at which handicap strokes are to be given or received”. To provide consistency at Affiliated Clubs it is strongly recommended that Appendix G of the CONGU UHS is followed. "

    The best advice that is given is to have two cards. One card for match play with completely fudged stroke indexes and another for other forms of play which is strictly based upon the ascending difficulty of the holes.

    We do not do it at our club simply because match play is probably the least played form of golf here. We originally had two cards but some members could not get their heads around which card to use.

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    Re: Would You Believe It !

    I understand that in Australia, all clubs have 2 cards. The matchplay card is the same at every course.

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    Re: Would You Believe It !

    As someone has already questioned, having the Si18 first hole actually favours the lower handicap player in all cases so it's a daft argument to support a really silly practice of requiring an 18 hole playoff. The reason it's silly is that it's entirely possible that that will also be halved and the players could be required to play 3, or more, rounds. Shear madness at any level of golf.

    Having already posted months ago about the twin evils of not having your CoC sorted, and reasons why you should always retain committee discretion rather than the inevitable disasters associated with "no extensions" thank you for adding another situation to the list (although I can't imagine any other club has an 18 hole playoff to a match play event!)

    Finally, the committee has got the players I to this mess and the very least you can do is point out that they can toss a coin to see who goes through, rather than both being DQ.
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    Re: Would You Believe It !

    I suppose the low handicapper could be considered to almost always make par or birdie on SI 18 - whereas a high(er) handicapper is by definition always more likely to mess up a hole, and hole - whatever the SI.
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    Re: Would You Believe It !

    Quote Originally Posted by SwingsitlikeHogan View Post
    I suppose the low handicapper could be considered to almost always make par or birdie on SI 18 - whereas a high(er) handicapper is by definition always more likely to mess up a hole, and hole - whatever the SI.
    Not sure your point?

    The fact is that on the SI18 hole the LOW handicapper is only ever giving a shot if he is giving shots at every hole.

    Therefore, as the more competent golfer, he has a distinct advantage at the first extra hole - he certainly isn't any disadvantage!
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    Pick up balls....

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    Re: Would You Believe It !

    As technically both parties have complied with the deadline to play their match, couldn't the OP allow them to contest the play-off after the deadline? After all the match has been played, it's the result that hasn't been decided.
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