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    Stronger lofts even Mizuno are at it now

    Was having a look at the new Mizuno Flihi replacement long irons. Quite liked the look of them and was thinking of getting the 2 iron.

    only trouble is, now the 2 iron is 16 deg which is a 1 iron. The 3 iron is 19 deg which is a 2 iron to all intense and purpose.

    what was wrong with a 2 iron being a 2 iron and a 3 simply that etc?
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    Re: Stronger lofts even Mizuno are at it now

    Because to your average golfer distance is king.

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    Re: Stronger lofts even Mizuno are at it now

    I thought that the lofts needed to be more aggressive due to the perimeter weighting in modern irons causing higher launch and so the lofts have to be decreased to keep the distances and it was nothing to do with your 7 iron now effectively being a 5 iron. I could be wrong though.
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    Re: Stronger lofts even Mizuno are at it now

    Yep, all to do with willy waving. Nobody wants to admit to hitting 'more club' on a par 3 than your PP's!

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    Re: Stronger lofts even Mizuno are at it now

    Quote Originally Posted by GB72 View Post
    I thought that the lofts needed to be more aggressive due to the perimeter weighting in modern irons causing higher launch and so the lofts have to be decreased to keep the distances and it was nothing to do with your 7 iron now effectively being a 5 iron. I could be wrong though.
    that would be fine but the last Hi Fli they made had a 1 iron that was 16 deg, a 2 iron that was 18 and 3 of 21 4 24 and they had far more parameter weighting than the new one
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    Re: Stronger lofts even Mizuno are at it now

    Quote Originally Posted by patricks148 View Post
    that would be fine but the last Hi Fli they made had a 1 iron that was 16 deg, a 2 iron that was 18 and 3 of 21 4 24 and they had far more parameter weighting than the new one
    Still, if the newer model is higher launching then the loft would need to be lowered to match the older model. Not saying that is the case but is a possibility.
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    Re: Stronger lofts even Mizuno are at it now

    Quote Originally Posted by GB72 View Post
    I thought that the lofts needed to be more aggressive due to the perimeter weighting in modern irons causing higher launch and so the lofts have to be decreased to keep the distances and it was nothing to do with your 7 iron now effectively being a 5 iron. I could be wrong though.
    Yu, those were my thoughts as well, higher launching clubs need the lofts cranked to keep the distance.
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    Re: Stronger lofts even Mizuno are at it now

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion View Post
    Yu, those were my thoughts as well, higher launching clubs need the lofts cranked to keep the distance.
    not sure they are, same shafts smaller head on the new ones with less Parameter weighting then the 2015 model.

    but even if what you say is true why call it a 2 iron when its a 1, why not just say 16 deg 19 deg etc?
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    Re: Stronger lofts even Mizuno are at it now

    Quote Originally Posted by patricks148 View Post
    not sure they are, same shafts smaller head on the new ones with less Parameter weighting then the 2015 model.

    but even if what you say is true why call it a 2 iron when its a 1, why not just say 16 deg 19 deg etc?
    Good point, which is why when playing a round and someone says, 170yds to the pin I'll take my 8 iron, they get ignored, as their 8 could be the same as my 6.
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    Re: Stronger lofts even Mizuno are at it now

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamelion View Post
    Good point, which is why when playing a round and someone says, 170yds to the pin I'll take my 8 iron, they get ignored, as their 8 could be the same as my 6.
    Exactly. My mates 7 iron (newish TM) is a half inch longer with less loft than my 7 iron (716 AP2). On par 3's where he hits a 7i and I hit a 6i we are effectively hitting the same club.
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