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    Re: Football transfer windows

    Quote Originally Posted by drive4show View Post
    He is a classic example of a greedy player who was perfectly happy to sign an improved long term contract only a year ago then want to rip it up as soon as a bigger club starts sniffing around.
    Yep, he wants more money and improved working conditions. It's a job. It's normal. Nothing to see here.
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    Re: Football transfer windows

    Quote Originally Posted by drive4show View Post
    I know it would never happen but I quite like the idea of making players stay until the end of their contract, as a Saints fan with the ongoing VvD saga this sounds very appealing

    He is a classic example of a greedy player who was perfectly happy to sign an improved long term contract only a year ago then want to rip it up as soon as a bigger club starts sniffing around. One report today suggests Saints are happy to make him sit on the bench for the next 5 years but zero chance of that happening.
    All these new player contracts do is say how much more the club will sell him for.
    Contracts in football have long been less about how long you will stay and more about how much they will get when you leave.
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    Re: Football transfer windows

    Quote Originally Posted by Kellfire View Post
    Yep, he wants more money and improved working conditions. It's a job. It's normal. Nothing to see here.
    And herein lies the problem......greed. He was more than happy to accept the wads of cash last year. He has been out injured since January and Saints still fill his bank account every week. They have upheld their side of the deal but it's OK for players not to uphold their side? He signed up to a 6 year commitment.

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    Re: Football transfer windows

    Quote Originally Posted by drive4show View Post
    And herein lies the problem......greed. He was more than happy to accept the wads of cash last year. He has been out injured since January and Saints still fill his bank account every week. They have upheld their side of the deal but it's OK for players not to uphold their side? He signed up to a 6 year commitment.
    A bit like marriage then, lifetime commitment, or until something better comes along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drive4show View Post
    And herein lies the problem......greed. He was more than happy to accept the wads of cash last year. He has been out injured since January and Saints still fill his bank account every week. They have upheld their side of the deal but it's OK for players not to uphold their side? He signed up to a 6 year commitment.
    Greed? You've never taken a promotion then?
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    Re: Football transfer windows

    Quote Originally Posted by Kellfire View Post
    Greed? You've never taken a promotion then?
    I Would look at it more like a contractor than a straight employee. If my wife takes on a contract she sees it through and only looks for the next contract once she is approaching the end of the last one. Does not seem too much to ask that a footballer sees out his contract and looks for the next one in the final year. Immediately you kill off transfer fees then you see more money for the clubs and more money for the players in inevitably increased wages. Seems like a win/win to me.
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    Re: Football transfer windows

    Quote Originally Posted by GB72 View Post
    I Would look at it more like a contractor than a straight employee. If my wife takes on a contract she sees it through and only looks for the next contract once she is approaching the end of the last one. Does not seem too much to ask that a footballer sees out his contract and looks for the next one in the final year. Immediately you kill off transfer fees then you see more money for the clubs and more money for the players in inevitably increased wages. Seems like a win/win to me.
    Still if you are a contractor you will have the option to buy yourself out of it at a price if something better comes along. This just happens to be another company wanting to pay for that buyout so they can have you instead.

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    Re: Football transfer windows

    Quote Originally Posted by Kellfire View Post
    Greed? You've never taken a promotion then?
    That is a pretty silly comparison because a promotion is within the same company that has probably paid out to train you and improve your skills so you are repaying some of that commitment.

    Footballers are an asset that cost a lot of money and their value can go down as well as up. If a team pays out £50m and a year later that player wants to leave and his value has dropped to £30m, where is the benefit to the club??

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    Re: Football transfer windows

    Quote Originally Posted by drive4show View Post
    And herein lies the problem......greed. He was more than happy to accept the wads of cash last year. He has been out injured since January and Saints still fill his bank account every week. They have upheld their side of the deal but it's OK for players not to uphold their side? He signed up to a 6 year commitment.
    But it was fine when you signed him on improved terms from Celtic?

    No one likes it when it's their own club having to sell when they can't match the salary or the potential trophy count, but that's just the way of the world.
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    Re: Football transfer windows

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveR View Post
    That is a pretty silly comparison because a promotion is within the same company that has probably paid out to train you and improve your skills so you are repaying some of that commitment.

    Footballers are an asset that cost a lot of money and their value can go down as well as up. If a team pays out £50m and a year later that player wants to leave and his value has dropped to £30m, where is the benefit to the club??
    A promotion can be to another company.

    And you describe footballers like any employee. As long as they're perceived to be making more than they cost, all is well.
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