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    Re: Don't point, shout FORE you idiots!

    Quote Originally Posted by tugglesf239 View Post
    Rahm was a joke then.
    Something needs bringing in, penalty shot for not shouting fore when clearly heading into the crowd rather than the arrogance that was on display then by Rahm just throwing his club to the ground which like racket abuse, should be penalised also.

    I don't subscribe to the guff the crowd wouldn't hear it, when it is shouted you see them all turn and crouch, it needs to be shouted, period.

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    Re: Don't point, shout FORE you idiots!

    personally I think we need to put into a little context

    When we play golf and we hit in the direction of someone we shout fore to warn them as they are not expecting a golf ball to be coming at them.

    When you go golf to spectate on a pro competition you go there to watch the golf. Therefore it is reasonable to expect that a golf ball may come in your direction and as you by the side of the fairway spectating on that shot therefore you should be able to react.

    Do footballers, cricketers, baseball and other sports warn when a ball is going into to the crowd. No they don't.

    If it is that important then one of the marshals on tee could shout it.....

    Before everybody has a dig this is just my personal opinion...

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    Re: Don't point, shout FORE you idiots!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrC View Post
    personally I think we need to put into a little context

    When we play golf and we hit in the direction of someone we shout fore to warn them as they are not expecting a golf ball to be coming at them.

    When you go golf to spectate on a pro competition you go there to watch the golf. Therefore it is reasonable to expect that a golf ball may come in your direction and as you by the side of the fairway spectating on that shot therefore you should be able to react.

    Do footballers, cricketers, baseball and other sports warn when a ball is going into to the crowd. No they don't.

    If it is that important then one of the marshals on tee could shout it.....

    Before everybody has a dig this is just my personal opinion...
    Which is rubbish imo.

    When I'm on a golf course I can expect a golf ball coming my way from many different directions, maybe we should not shout fore on those either then as it should be expected as there's hundreds of little white balls flying around all day!!

    They need to shout and set examples, period.

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    Re: Don't point, shout FORE you idiots!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fish View Post
    Which is rubbish imo.

    When I'm on a golf course I can expect a golf ball coming my way from many different directions, maybe we should not shout fore on those either then as it should be expected as there's hundreds of little white balls flying around all day!!

    They need to shout and set examples, period.
    That was one of the points I was making - when we play it can come from anywhere

    99.9% of the time when the pro's play it comes from the tee (or shot) on the hole the spectator is watching. It doesn't come from just anywhere - it comes from where the spectator is looking.

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    Re: Don't point, shout FORE you idiots!

    Hmm..

    At the BMW PGA, the forecaddies were watching the ball off the tee, and were calling "fore" if it was errant. And also indicating which section of crowd needecd to "duck". Twice during our day there, Ben An smacked on into the trees above our heads. On both occasions, it was the forecaddies who were watching what was happening on the tee and who saw which way the player was pointing. The player may or may not have shouted - if he did, l couldn't hear. The forecaddies could see exactly where the ball was going and warned us accordingly. Don't know if this sort of thing gets picked up by the TV cameras?

    Don't know if this is normal practice at other tournaments but it seems a far better way of safeguarding the crowd than does some bloke waving his arms about in the distance, and who may or may not have been shouting, for all l could hear.
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    Re: Don't point, shout FORE you idiots!

    What was it Rory said...something along the lines of "if you cant hit it down a fairway 60 yds wide" or something like that, "they shouldnt be there in the first place"?
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    Re: Don't point, shout FORE you idiots!

    The idea that everyone should be paying attention and not need to hear a fore shout is nonsense. I was at Portstewart on Friday and have played the course before. There are plenty of holes that back onto each other; 16, 17 and 18 being a prime example. You could very easily be standing watching play at the 16th while a stray shot from 17 comes your direction.

    Also if you're standing at the green of a par 5 it's hard to always pick up the flight of the ball coming from over 200 yards away, especially if you can't see the player hit the shot. I don't really see why the pros can't shout fore.

    As as for the damage being hit by a golf ball can do, we had a member who was brain damaged after being hit by a drive right on top of his head about 3 years ago. He died within a year. It's an exceptional circumstance, but it shows the worst can happen.

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    Re: Don't point, shout FORE you idiots!

    Honestly

    Why the debate? It's comical how over complicated things can get on here sometimes.

    If in doubt, just shout.

    We all do it and so should they. It's not hard.

    As for not being heard 300 yards away. May I suggest that the shouter needs to grow a pair and learn to boom the voice.

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    Re: Don't point, shout FORE you idiots!

    Just called Rahm out in my column for the AP.
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    Professional etiquette

    Rahm incurred the wrath of several fans during the third round when he twice hit balls into the galleries lining the Portstewart fairways and was not quick to call fore to warn of impending danger. This was compounded by his quickness to criticize any fans who moved or used mobile phones near him during the round.
    While the latter is a common scourge of professional golf, the seeming lack of effort by the top players to warn fans of errant golf balls is one that needs to be dealt with by the professional tours sooner rather than later.

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    Re: Don't point, shout FORE you idiots!

    While I agree that pros should shout fore (if only to set an example), the pointing, which is always regarded as a bit of a lame response, is actually more important in those cases than the fore shout. Because there normally is a forecaddie who is watching the player closely. The outstretched arm of the player tells him a lot more about the shot than a shout of fore ever could and as blackwoodsman pointed out, they then normally warn the spectators in the landing area.
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