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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by HomerJSimpson View Post
    Exactly. Unless you're in a PL side and a top side, England take no notice. Many get farmed out on loan and so out of sight, out of mind even though they may be playing well. Look at the squad, how many are in top sides and so how many are being invited into the first team, even to gain experience. http://www.thefa.com/england/mens-under-21s/squad
    Arnold Gomez and Solanke are in the first team squad week in week out.
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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Pin-seeker View Post
    I couldnít understand Southgates team selection.
    Surely you pick players in form.
    If you pick players in form & they donít turn up then thatís fair enough.
    But when you select Ox & Henderson then Iím sorry but you deserve all the stick you get.
    This is what I mean 👍

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashyboy View Post
    Ah that old cheggar, apart from making Aguero, de Bruyne, Fernadinho, Stones and others better at team play which England are not good at yeah you have got me.

    On the other hand we could always listen to that stalwart of many decades of failure within the England camp as both coach and player, Ray Wilkins. Quote, "No one else could do a better job with the players than what Southgate is doing". Well thanks for your honesty in telling us that the game we are watching under Southgate is gonna bore the tits off us for the foreseeable future.

    However back to Pep, it has been both interesting and amusing, listening to fans on here complain how there teams/squads have not invested in there obvious weak positions.
    Whats Pep done about City? Got rid of four full backs in the summer and brought in two, however Mendy is injured and Delph has been excellent at left back, that's nowt to do with Pep dropping him in there is it. strengthened midfield and got rid of some, strengthened up front and got a whopping £25 million for donkey inehacho. But bought Jesus for less. Along the way playing football that generations of City fans have never seen? Yup he's doin a crap job. Long may it continue.
    lol tashy, no one said hes doing a crap job, but hows he going to buy another 2 full backs, strengthen midfield and and buy up front if he doesnt like the ones hes got as an international manager?
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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Jates12 View Post
    over the past 7 years, the england cricket team have been in the top 3 of the test rankings, won the world T20, came runners up in the ICC champs and the T20, won 4 ashes series when losing 1. Beat india in India for the first time in 25 years.

    All with a foreign coach, I think they have been successful.
    So a bit like Arsenal fans saying winning the FA Cup a few times and being top 4 for 20 years in a row is a good record and getting told thatís failure.

    The Ashes is against 1 team and beating India, wow.

    Certainly proved me wrong

    Looking forward to the rugby stats now

    I personally donít care what nationality they are, I simply want England in any sport to do well, England Football have had a superb summer in the Underís team and hopefully it bodes well for the future, I just donít subscribe to this idea that the answer is, appoint a foreigner!
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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Jates12 View Post
    Arnold Gomez and Solanke are in the first team squad week in week out.
    As well as the 3 Everton players.

    Not sure you thought this one through homer!

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Fish View Post
    Itís buzzing in Leamington Spa tonight 

    What a result 

    Yep, thats some result. Sounded like a great game too. I expect Neville and co will be splashing the cash again if it carries on.

    Crazy money in the conference north right now.
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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by pauldj42 View Post
    So a bit like Arsenal fans saying winning the FA Cup a few times and being top 4 for 20 years in a row is a good record and getting told thatís failure.

    The Ashes is against 1 team and beating India, wow.

    Certainly proved me wrong

    Looking forward to the rugby stats now
    Since Eddie Jones took over England

    Played 20 -lost once - 17 international wins in a row matching the longest ever winning run in Rugby , gone from 7 in the WR to 2nd and have won the Grand Slam and the Six Nations in that 2 year period.

    Both the cricket and rugby teams have improved immensely since the appointment of the best available coaches regardless of nationality - 99% of people who follow both sports will be able to see that quite clearly

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpoolphil View Post
    Since Eddie Jones took over England

    Played 20 -lost once - 17 international wins in a row matching the longest ever winning run in Rugby , gone from 7 in the WR to 2nd and have won the Grand Slam and the Six Nations in that 2 year period.

    Both the cricket and rugby teams have improved immensely since the appointment of the best available coaches regardless of nationality - 99% of people who follow both sports will be able to see that quite clearly
    Itís all about Trophies Phil, Iíve edited while you replied, one minute you state you have no interest in the national team and the next you have the answer, you donít even watch them and tell us whatís wrong.

    Over the moon England Rugby and Cricket have improved, but they have very limited opposition.

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Pin-seeker View Post
    I couldnít understand Southgates team selection.
    Surely you pick players in form.
    If you pick players in form & they donít turn up then thatís fair enough.
    But when you select Ox & Henderson then Iím sorry but you deserve all the stick you get.
    Agree but they weren't the only ones Sterling, Dire , Even Kane until he scored they were all crap.
    To me it's a mental thing with the shirt.
    The players in form should lift the ones struggling but the opposite happens when they put an England shirt on.
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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Very difficult to say that the England cricket team has improved at white ball cricket under the present regime.

    Also cannot compare the performances of either the rugby or cricket teams with the football team

    Both the former are, in terms of the number of competitors, minority sports

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