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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...pp-took-charge

    Interesting stats in Klopp's favour here. If they can figure out a way to get wins against teams that sit in and defend they'll be serious title contenders.

    Also interesting that Man City have such a poor record against the Top 6!
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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Dan - That is an issue many teams have, particularly at international level, see France this week. It is not that hard to pack the midfield and defence and then stifle with no intention of going forward in numbers. Where City and Liverpool struggle on this front is they are a little one dimensional. Glorious flowing football if there is space but if not they can not go long or high in the same way Man Utd can this year and Chelsea have always been able to. How do you stretch a team that wont leave their own half?

    Both Pep and Jurgen need to answer that question if they are going to win the league.
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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Jates12 View Post
    Germany is Germany, what was the score when you met the german champions last year? The point is that Wenger is washed up and whining, Klopp is on the ascent and is regarded worldwide as a great coach. On the other hand Wenger is in a massive decline and the Deity like praise that you still shower him with is misplaced and idiotic.
    So you keep saying but wtf has Klopp actually won over here so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawtooth View Post
    Mate , honours are honours regardless of time. They don't expire.

    Klopp talks a good game but out of the two managers Klopp is the one that still has everything to prove.

    Confident of putting up a challenge? ha I should bloody hope so with the money and time it's taking Liverpool. Top 6-8 teams will put up a challenge, but will you actually win the league that is the question.
    I'm not saying that Klopp is "all-that", but honestly, if Jurgen wins nothing this year and Wenger the same, but both finish in say 3rd/4th place - which manager would you rather have managing Arsenal next year?

    God knows, why I'm asking this......

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by sawtooth View Post
    So you keep saying but wtf has Klopp actually won over here so far?
    Correct, but 2 finals in 2 seasons is a start.

    He's been building for 20 months, not 20 years.....

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan2501 View Post
    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...pp-took-charge

    Interesting stats in Klopp's favour here. If they can figure out a way to get wins against teams that sit in and defend they'll be serious title contenders.

    Also interesting that Man City have such a poor record against the Top 6!
    If If If.

    If they fixed that then they would probably leak more goals than normal.

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Liverbirdie View Post
    I'm not saying that Klopp is "all-that", but honestly, if Jurgen wins nothing this year and Wenger the same, but both finish in say 3rd/4th place - which manager would you rather have managing Arsenal next year?

    God knows, why I'm asking this......

    really you asked?

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Liverbirdie View Post
    I'm not saying that Klopp is "all-that", but honestly, if Jurgen wins nothing this year and Wenger the same, but both finish in say 3rd/4th place - which manager would you rather have managing Arsenal next year?

    God knows, why I'm asking this......
    Obviously Wenger. He has shown unprecedented consistency over 21 years. Klopp got lucky at Dortmund (possibly) so there is still a huge question mark over his capability.

    It was a silly question but glad that you asked it anyway👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawtooth View Post
    So you keep saying but wtf has Klopp actually won over here so far?
    He won last weekends game 4-0 against you boys
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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by sawtooth View Post
    Obviously Wenger. He has shown unprecedented consistenty over 21 years. Klopp got lucky at Dortmund (possibly) so there is still a huge question mark over his capability.

    It was a silly question but glad that you asked it anyway
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