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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by fundy View Post
    lack of quality on display just hideous, overrun in midfield, created nothing going forward, dead balls been awful, only still level as chelsea havent been a great deal better

    at least sanchez looks comfy on the bench lol
    Not taking our chances, lacking a killer pass or instinctive strike, mind you, your getting back in numbers en masse, 8-9 in the box all the time making it difficult.

    Not pretty, I think Xhaka a little lucky not to pick up a 2nd yellow at one point, I think if he wasn’t already on a yellow he’d have picked one up with those back to back fouls on Morata.

    Not the end of the world but we’re lacking a bit of bite and need a new spark.

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    2 goalless draws on the spin against 2 very poor sides. It is not looking good

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    What a difference VAR makes.

    Hazard, Moses and Morata all ineffectual due to not being able to con the officials - great stuff.

    On another day without VAR Mike Dean would have given the Fab penalty no doubt about it.

    A good draw with a depleted team against a "strong" Chelsea team.
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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by sawtooth View Post
    What a difference VAR makes.

    Hazard, Moses and Morata all ineffectual due to not being able to con the officials - great stuff.

    On another day without VAR Mike Dean would have given the Fab penalty no doubt about it.

    A good draw with a depleted team against a "strong" Chelsea team.
    Mike Dean wasn’t the ref and believe the ref had already decided no penalty on each decision but wanted clarification so ultimately VAR didn’t really affect the game significantly

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpoolphil View Post
    Mike Dean wasn’t the ref and believe the ref had already decided no penalty on each decision but wanted clarification so ultimately VAR didn’t really affect the game significantly
    how was there only 1 min injury time in the first half having had 3 VAR decisions???
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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by fundy View Post
    how was there only 1 min injury time in the first half having had 3 VAR decisions???
    Thought play only really stopped for more than 10 seconds for one of the incidents

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpoolphil View Post
    Mike Dean wasn’t the ref and believe the ref had already decided no penalty on each decision but wanted clarification so ultimately VAR didn’t really affect the game significantly
    I know that, the pen tonight wasn't given by the ref. But MD would have given it no doubt about it (if he was the ref tonight) - without VAR being used.

    It would have been the difference between 0-0 and 1-0 to Chelsea so yes VAR is a significant improvement IMO.

    I might actually learn to appreciate players like Hazard a bit more with VAR as I can focus on the good things that he does with the ball instead.
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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

    Quote Originally Posted by sawtooth View Post
    I know that, the pen tonight wasn't given by the ref. But MD would have given it no doubt about it (if he was the ref tonight) - without VAR being used.

    It would have been the difference between 0-0 and 1-0 to Chelsea so yes VAR is a significant improvement IMO.

    I might actually learn to appreciate players like Hazard a bit more with VAR as I can focus on the good things that he does with the ball instead.
    i noticed Wiltshire stayed on his feet more is that VAR?
    he actually played well tonight but there was nobody to pass to upfront.

    thought a draw was fair result but it wasn’t a classic.

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    Re: And, we're off, 2017/18.......

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    I think there's more to come.

    I'm reading elsewhere that Man U fans are trying to convince themselves they'd rather have a 29 year old Matic over a 22 year old Bakayoko, now that's laughable, but not as much as Sawtooths posts ������
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