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    Re: best golf tagging system

    So I took the plunge and bought an Arccos 360 which I'm looking forward to receiving... currently reading every shot counts by mark broadie so after considering all tagging systems and finding out Arccos apply his strokes gained method it appealed most as I think for a lamen like myself the analytics software and deciphering where you are losing strokes compared to particular handicaps is the key to improving to better golf. i think we all like to feel like we KNOW where we are losing shots but that can change on any single round so after I have banked 30-50 rounds will be good to have an outside source identifying it for me.

    Even in the book there's an anology on Justin Rose saying he felt his wedge game was rubbish and needed improving- when in fact after working through his strokes gained he was actually No1 on tour so if the pro's don't really know how can we?

    I was really interested in scot scope but their website is a bit lacking in what analytics the software actually provides other than to say they are updating in Autumn 2017 after the feedback they have received.
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    Re: best golf tagging system

    The Arccos 360 has been interesting me recently. Thinking about buying. Interested to hear more opinions from anyone that has it / has used it.
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    Re: best golf tagging system

    Quote Originally Posted by Yant View Post
    The Arccos 360 has been interesting me recently. Thinking about buying. Interested to hear more opinions from anyone that has it / has used it.
    I've been using it since early June after previously using Game Golf. Pros and cons:

    Pros
    • No need to tag each shot - auto tagging works very well
    • Easy to setup although I had to get a couple of sensors replaced - customer support was great though.
    • The app/website are easy to use and the strokes gained stats are really useful and well presented.
    • The predicted handicap from recorded rounds is very close to my actual handicap


    Cons
    • The putter sensor is inaccurate but Arccos say they are updating these soon and have offered to replace for free. It's easy to manually change the putts but a bit of a PITA after every round.
    • It's not very easy to adjust for a tee shot possibly OOB or lost as the system assumes the provisional is the actual shot and the first one was a practice swing. You can add penalty shots but then you are losing the stats for the initial shot I assume.
    • You have to have a phone in your front pocket while playing - might be a deal breaker for some.


    There is also an option to pay extra (30 day trial too) for a "caddy" feature where the app will suggest a club to play on a shot based on your shot history. I did not find this very useful. For example, it kept suggesting taking a driver on a short dogleg par 4 with trees and water between the tee and the green when 99.9% of players at the club take an iron off the tee.

    In summary I am still using it and finding it useful whereas Game Golf I gave up on. It's not perfect but the best shot tracking system I've come across so far...

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    Re: best golf tagging system

    Thanks Robbo. Interesting review.
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    Agreed good read Robbo 👏

    I also had game golf but found it very frustrating, the live system was an upgrade but tagging and wearing the belt clip was a pain. Often found my 2nd putt was no where near the hole ?? Why would I putt it 30ft away every time. Too much after round editing so sold it out. It did offer plenty of info while I had it.

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    Re: best golf tagging system

    Quote Originally Posted by robbo View Post
    I've been using it since early June after previously using Game Golf. Pros and cons:

    Pros
    • No need to tag each shot - auto tagging works very well
    • Easy to setup although I had to get a couple of sensors replaced - customer support was great though.
    • The app/website are easy to use and the strokes gained stats are really useful and well presented.
    • The predicted handicap from recorded rounds is very close to my actual handicap


    Cons
    • The putter sensor is inaccurate but Arccos say they are updating these soon and have offered to replace for free. It's easy to manually change the putts but a bit of a PITA after every round.
    • It's not very easy to adjust for a tee shot possibly OOB or lost as the system assumes the provisional is the actual shot and the first one was a practice swing. You can add penalty shots but then you are losing the stats for the initial shot I assume.
    • You have to have a phone in your front pocket while playing - might be a deal breaker for some.


    There is also an option to pay extra (30 day trial too) for a "caddy" feature where the app will suggest a club to play on a shot based on your shot history. I did not find this very useful. For example, it kept suggesting taking a driver on a short dogleg par 4 with trees and water between the tee and the green when 99.9% of players at the club take an iron off the tee.

    In summary I am still using it and finding it useful whereas Game Golf I gave up on. It's not perfect but the best shot tracking system I've come across so far...
    I would say from that the pros definitely outweigh the cons- I am a bit worried about stats when coming up with hole location- how do you actually notify the app/sensors where the hole is in relation to where you have landed/putted from then finished?
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    Quote Originally Posted by turkish View Post
    I would say from that the pros definitely outweigh the cons- I am a bit worried about stats when coming up with hole location- how do you actually notify the app/sensors where the hole is in relation to where you have landed/putted from then finished?
    You have to edit the hole location post round for that level of accuracy. Personally I don't do this as I don't have the patience. I do think putting is one area where these sort of devices could be improved but I'm not sure there is an easy answer other than tagging manually at the hole location. And then we're back into the Game Golf world of forgetting to tag!

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    Och i wont mind that if i just estimate it post round for the 18 holes. The tagging was main issue for me.

    Got delivered today. 2nd hand and hes chopped down putter tag for his counter weight putter so will just need to glue on

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    Duff a chip mind scrambles then miss tag 😱 frustrated you miss tagged #BlowUp

    Archos auto tag sounds like the kit to have, oh tagging twice on gg what 🤔
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    Quote Originally Posted by turkish View Post
    Och i wont mind that if i just estimate it post round for the 18 holes. The tagging was main issue for me.

    Got delivered today. 2nd hand and hes chopped down putter tag for his counter weight putter so will just need to glue on
    If you have any trouble with the cut down putter tag let me know - I have 2 putter sensors as I asked for a replacement for the first one thinking it didn't work very well. Second one was the same! I can pop the spare in the post if you want it...

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