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    Re: Any benross users?

    Quote Originally Posted by albie999 View Post
    So, if I want to loft it down ... is that C or O? ... previous drivers, I have used a 9-9.5 ... so 10.5 seems to fly a little high at the mo
    Closed and Open is not adjusting the loft, it's for the face angle. Closed to promote draw, open to promote a fade.
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    Re: Any benross users?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orikoru View Post
    Closed and Open is not adjusting the loft, it's for the face angle. Closed to promote draw, open to promote a fade.
    Which is how it effectively adjusts the loft. IIRC, when you set the face to open, when you address the ball and the face is open you will then square the face up, thus effectively lowering the loft. Conversely set to closed you manipulate it open to square the face thus adding effective loft. Tom Wishon explains it much better if you google him.

    U is for upright; square face angle but a more upright lie angle.

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    Re: Any benross users?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue in Munich View Post
    Which is how it effectively adjusts the loft. IIRC, when you set the face to open, when you address the ball and the face is open you will then square the face up, thus effectively lowering the loft. Conversely set to closed you manipulate it open to square the face thus adding effective loft. Tom Wishon explains it much better if you google him.

    U is for upright; square face angle but a more upright lie angle.
    That's not really adjusting loft in the conventional sense though - most drivers they are separate things that can be adjusted independently aren't they? i.e. changing face angle will affect​ loft but it is not strictly adjusting it.
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    Re: Any benross users?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orikoru View Post
    That's not really adjusting loft in the conventional sense though - most drivers they are separate things that can be adjusted independently aren't they? i.e. changing face angle will affect​ loft but it is not strictly adjusting it.
    Well if that isnt how adjustable drivers work them perhaps you could explain to the OP how you do adjust the loft on a driver; bearing in mind that the loft angle is set when the driver head is made and the hosel setting is the only thing that can be changed Id love to hear how the loft is actually changed.

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    Re: Any benross users?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue in Munich View Post
    Well if that isnt how adjustable drivers work them perhaps you could explain to the OP how you do adjust the loft on a driver; bearing in mind that the loft angle is set when the driver head is made and the hosel setting is the only thing that can be changed Id love to hear how the loft is actually changed.
    Well my driver has a soleplate that closes or opens the face angle, while the hosel adjustment changes the loft. I've no idea how the Benross Type R does it though.
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    Re: Any benross users?

    You can't actually adjust the loft of a club at the moment without altering the brace angle slightly. The head and lower part of the hosel are fixed.
    As BiM says, if you add "loft" you're effectively closing the face so to recreate your normal view you have to rotate to open the face a touch - this effectively adds the loft.
    Any movement of the hosel adjusters will alter face angle slightly.
    Some clubs only move by a degree or so but some can make 4-5 difference which is a big chunk!
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    Re: Any benross users?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orikoru View Post
    Well my driver has a soleplate that closes or opens the face angle, while the hosel adjustment changes the loft. I've no idea how the Benross Type R does it though.
    No. You. Haven't.

    http://wishongolf.com/wp-content/upl...el-drivers.pdf

    Read the stats for how the Taylor Made R1 loft "changes" when "adjusted" as measured by an industry guru. A whole quarter of a degree up or down. The loft is fixed as it is set at the factory, the adjustments come from deceiving your eye to manipulate the face. If you won't take my word for it, take Tom's or tell him where he is going wrong.

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    Re: Any benross users?

    Still trying to get my head around this, so thought would share some pics of the shaft settings

    Standard setting - therefore 10.5 degree
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    C = Closed = advises -1.5FA - so presume in that setting would be 9 degree
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    Upright = not sure what that means
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    O = Open = advises +1.5FA - so presume in that setting would be 12 degree
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    Re: Any benross users?

    If you do a net search on Titleist adjustment chart. This gives a good idea of what goes on. Their adjuster is actually a double mechanism so they give better control of just adjust loft without too much opening and closing of the face.
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