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    Re: Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

    I don't care, I just want her to win now although I personally might vote Lib Dem just so SILH can continue his ever magnificent rants and perhaps, insist on another election because he didn't like the results

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    Re: Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Old Skier View Post
    I don't care, I just want her to win now although I personally might vote Lib Dem just so SILH can continue his ever magnificent rants and perhaps, insist on another election because he didn't like the results
    At least with GEs the Great British Public gets a repeat go every 5 yrs if we don't like the outcome of our previous decision / settled will. When we find out that some of the things we were promised didn't happen, and some things we were told wouldn't happen or weren't told about at all - did

    mini rant? well it's over...
    to infinity and beyond...

    ...well from 10.0 to 9.4 this year would be nice.

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    At moment listening to radio outside broadcast ahead of Theresa May speech - did I hear her ringtone go off in the background? I'm sure it was 'Oh Come All Ye Faithful' - but I might have been imagining things
    to infinity and beyond...

    ...well from 10.0 to 9.4 this year would be nice.

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    Re: Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

    Quote Originally Posted by SwingsitlikeHogan View Post
    At moment listening to radio outside broadcast ahead of Theresa May speech - did I hear her ringtone go off in the background? I'm sure it was 'Oh Come All Ye Faithful' - but I might have been imagining things
    She is a very religious person.

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    Re: Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

    Apologies if this is somewhat hijacking the thread, but what is it that everyone seems to hate about Jeremy Corbyn?

    Everyone states that politicians are liars and can't trust any of them, where as Corbyn seems to stick to his principles and is not liked by many? BTW I am not a Labour voter, and probably won't vote them in this election. However they have produced a very promising manifesto and seem to be based on Corbyn's principles.

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    Apologies if this is somewhat hijacking the thread, but what is it that everyone seems to hate about Jeremy Corbyn?

    Everyone states that politicians are liars and can't trust any of them, where as Corbyn seems to stick to his principles and is not liked by many? BTW I am not a Labour voter, and probably won't vote them in this election. However they have produced a very promising manifesto and seem to be based on Corbyn's principles.
    Absolutely nothing about Corbyn that I hate - or indeed particularly dislike - he talks a lot of sense and promotes considerate and compassionate policies.

    I was very disappointed that he took such a weak position in the EU ref debate. Unfortunately I just don't think he has a chance of becoming PM. The Right Wing Press - followed and quoted assiduously by Fervent Brexiteers; Socialism and Left Wing haters and acolytes of The Supreme Leader - just make that very near impossible.

    Maybe not a Corbyn lover - most certainly not a Corbyn hater.

    And why there so many here? Well - it's a pan-UK golf forum...and too many folks across the UK these days suffer from the worst form of 'ism'. (I Self Me). And if you got that 'ism' then you ain't going to like Corbyn. And this forum is just a sample of a specific demographic, and so more nor less likely to suffer from that 'ism'
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    to infinity and beyond...

    ...well from 10.0 to 9.4 this year would be nice.

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    Re: Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raesy92 View Post
    Apologies if this is somewhat hijacking the thread, but what is it that everyone seems to hate about Jeremy Corbyn?

    Everyone states that politicians are liars and can't trust any of them, where as Corbyn seems to stick to his principles and is not liked by many? BTW I am not a Labour voter, and probably won't vote them in this election. However they have produced a very promising manifesto and seem to be based on Corbyn's principles.
    I don't hate him, nor do I think I hate anyone.

    So what has led me to dislike Corbyn as a politician? Whilst I agree that ultimately the only way to settle conflict is with dialogue, it has to be conducted at governmental levels. It may even be behind closed doors and off the radar, e.g. the Thatcher and Blair govts dealings with the IRA. Whilst those behind the doors discussions/negotiations are going the public stance has to be to condemn violence.

    Not to do so legitimises the use of violence in a conflict. It undermines the government's position and engenders support for the terror organisation.

    Where those terror organisations are operating in a foreign conflict, e.g. Hamas and Hezbollah in Palestine/Isreal, an MP from a foreign country should not get involved. Corbyn inviting Hamas and Hezbollah to the steps of Westminster was wrong on so many different levels. For example, how would that be reported in the Beirut Gazette? "British politician supports the armed struggle in Palestine." And what would that do for our relations with the government of that country?

    Behind the scenes I dare say the Foreign Office were trying to help end the conflict, along with many countries around the world. Having Corbyn undermine those efforts and, potentially, add legitimacy to a terror organisation is, in my eyes wholly wrong.

    Then move onto his obvious lack of commitment to the defence of the UK and its NATO allies... he doesn't leave me feeling secure.

    As a person I like him, and I like many of his social values. I also like an awful lot of what is in the Labour manifesto. But lets look at the cost of renationalisation. Where are Labour going to get £XXX billion from for just some of the renationalisation? And if they can get that much money via taxation, plough it into the NHS and Education first.

    Ah, but all we have to do with the railways is let the franchises run out. And no doubt the nationalised railways would have to find an absolute fortune to replace the old rolling stock that the franchisee hasn't replaced after Labour take office.

    Corbyn himself said in an interview with the BBC that the cost of renationalisation hasn't been identified because we won't know the share price we will agree on with the owners.

    The Labour manifesto, in a number of key areas, is a cuddly, lets make the people feel warm document that is a fairy tale. There's some good in there that do-able, but there's too much in there that isn't do-able without bankrupting the country(again).

    But Labour has to be viewed beyond one person. Corbyn, nice guy, passionate and caring. Come across better than I originally thought, and I warm to him up to a point. McDonnell, out and out Marxist and, occasionally, sounds like a bully - don't trust him. Abbott, I'd get an infraction for saying what I think about her politics and racism.

    Would I vote Labour, not in its current form but yes if it was more centre-ist, as in Blair's early days before his God complex.
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    Re: Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

    Does anyone think rail franchises are replacing rolling stock as their term runs out regardless of whether they're being renationalised or up for retender?
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    Re: Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

    Quote Originally Posted by FairwayDodger View Post
    Does anyone think rail franchises are replacing rolling stock as their term runs out regardless of whether they're being renationalised or up for retender?
    Just noticed quite a lot of new carriages on my journey into London from Hertfordshire, so someone is spending money, plus we do have a very good, reliable and frequent service.
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    Re: Theresa May - Not up to the Job of PM?

    This strong and stable Tory government seems to be destroying many of the previous strong and stable Tory governments policies.

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