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    Ryder Cup Winner garyinderry's Avatar
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    lightbulb moment #1956

    Been struggling with my irons and driver for quite some time. Main problem is dropping the club way inside under plane whatever you want to call it.

    It has been a succession of fats and hooks. With the soft ground recently its been nothing short of pathetic. Scrapping it round and having to chip and putt to make a score. Rounds would go by without hitting a single clean iron.

    I enjoy the challenge of this game and trying to figure it out for myself with the aid of videos. I've had a handful of lessons when things get seriously bad and was on the verge of booking one soon.

    This week I stopped sliding hard with my left hip and this reduced my hook with the driver.

    The fat irons remained. On the tenth tee I watched my mate practice swing who swings with a out to in swing. I wanted to copy his swing in a vain attempt to hit a fade with my hybrid. I focused on his right shoulder and tried to copy its movements. As I stood over the ball I got it into my head I would throw my right shoulder at the ball. BANG flushed it.

    Same swing thought with every iron for the rest of the round and I was back hitting flush irons again. It reminded me of the lesson I had with Jason Dransfield where he pointed out to me that I needed to turn rather than slide, dipping my right shoulder backwards swallowing out the club too much and swinging out to right field. I didn't quite get it that day but its finally sunk in.

    It also seemed to unlock an extra gear with the driver too. Felt a freedom of movement that wasn't previously there.

    I will post a video I found on YouTube that pretty much says what I am getting at in a convoluted way.


    Excited to work on this.
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    Lee Trevino Napa style putter
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    Re: lightbulb moment #1956

    Titleist 910 9.5* (old trusty)
    Titleist 913 F 16* 4 wood
    Titleist 913 19* 5 wood
    Titleist 915 24* hybrid
    Titleist 915 27* hybrid
    Mizuno Fli Hi JPX (2012) 6 & 7
    Titleist 714ap2 8-gap
    Vokey SM 6 56* 14*bounce
    Titleist sm5 k grind 60* 11*bounce
    Lee Trevino Napa style putter
    handicap updated to --(2017)8.2---8.4---8.2---8.0---7.8--

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    Re: lightbulb moment #1956

    What's 'tords' Gary? Are they like Chords?
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    Re: lightbulb moment #1956

    Quote Originally Posted by huds1475 View Post
    What's 'tords' Gary? Are they like Chords?

    Give him a chance lad. (in my best butch harmon voice) These are pearls I'm giving you, pearls.
    Titleist 910 9.5* (old trusty)
    Titleist 913 F 16* 4 wood
    Titleist 913 19* 5 wood
    Titleist 915 24* hybrid
    Titleist 915 27* hybrid
    Mizuno Fli Hi JPX (2012) 6 & 7
    Titleist 714ap2 8-gap
    Vokey SM 6 56* 14*bounce
    Titleist sm5 k grind 60* 11*bounce
    Lee Trevino Napa style putter
    handicap updated to --(2017)8.2---8.4---8.2---8.0---7.8--

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    Re: lightbulb moment #1956

    Quote Originally Posted by garyinderry View Post
    Give him a chance lad. (in my best butch harmon voice) These are pearls I'm giving you, pearls.
    I like it, reminds me of Denzil Dexter.

    There's some decent advice in there to help get a feel. Not too far away from what I'm trying to work on at the moment to be honest!

    Although i don't need any more lightbulb moments to be honest, I'm rapidly catching you up already

    Hope you're well
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    Re: lightbulb moment #1956

    Things are good pal.


    Even happier my game is also turning the corner.

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    Re: lightbulb moment #1956

    There good these lightbulb moments 🤔 💡😃

    I had one the other week of keeping the shoulders out of the swing, today's gem was to keep the legs quiet. Only had a 9+52 but was crunching them.

    Soon the only thing moving in my swing will be the arms 😂

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    Re: lightbulb moment #1956

    Quote Originally Posted by davemc1 View Post

    Soon the only thing moving in my swing will be the arms 😂
    Now this is would like to see

    A bit like a more animated version of the swing thought you had on the 1st Tee @ Manchester - "Move nothing"!

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    Re: lightbulb moment #1956

    Am a bit like K Bradley but with none of his animation 😮
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    Re: lightbulb moment #1956

    I did a little digging and it seems that this is absolutely the right thing to be doing. Stops the arm getting trapped and allows the arms to swing in front of the body and deliver proper shaft lean.

    2mins 33seconds here is exactly it

    Titleist 910 9.5* (old trusty)
    Titleist 913 F 16* 4 wood
    Titleist 913 19* 5 wood
    Titleist 915 24* hybrid
    Titleist 915 27* hybrid
    Mizuno Fli Hi JPX (2012) 6 & 7
    Titleist 714ap2 8-gap
    Vokey SM 6 56* 14*bounce
    Titleist sm5 k grind 60* 11*bounce
    Lee Trevino Napa style putter
    handicap updated to --(2017)8.2---8.4---8.2---8.0---7.8--

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