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    Good driver for mid - high handicapper

    After umming and aahing I think I'm going to go for one soon. (I was going to wait til this time next year as I've only been playing a while but HID suggested buying either irons or driver now rather than both at the same time and I think of the two I'll benefit more waiting for the irons.)

    I currently have a secondhand Ping G2 11.5 degree. No problem getting it airborne so would probably feel comfortable going for a little less loft and tend to fade it slightly.

    Any recommendations gratefully received.

    Cheers

    Simon

    PS I'm guessing it would be sensible to hold out til after Christmas but would rather not - will it make a massive difference?

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    Re: Good driver for mid - high handicapper

    Quote Originally Posted by wookie View Post
    I currently have a secondhand Ping G2 11.5 degree. No problem getting it airborne so would probably feel comfortable going for a little less loft and tend to fade it slightly.
    Any recommendations gratefully received.
    As you have only been playing a short while, might it not make better sense to get another driver with similar loft but with a lower launching shaft if you want to get a slightly lower trajectory?
    I've seen so many people go for a lower loft in their drivers to try to keep the ball down but all it will do is exaggerate the fade. More loft equals less sidespin.
    By going for a lower launching shaft (not necessarily "stiffer") you still have the confidence that looking down on 11.5 degrees of loft will give you???
    Just a thought
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    Re: Good driver for mid - high handicapper

    Learning, learning, learning! Thanks Smiffy.

    How would I know which shaft options are lower launching?

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    Re: Good driver for mid - high handicapper

    Hi,
    I was in a similar position 4 weeks ago when I went out to buy some new clubs.

    I tested 7 different drivers and found that I prefered the TaylorMade Burner 2.0 & the R11 in 10.5
    Using the sim I hit slightly further and straighter with the burner but as I was going with the R11 irons I opted for the R11 driver too.
    After some lessons I am doing pretty well with the R11 but as yet I have not tried to adjust anything on the club to see if I can tweek my shots (which tend to end up a bit right).

    I found American Golf usefull for testing different clubs on their Sim but not over keen on their sales pitch (which in my experience is lies as I got told one version of how someone lived a certain driver "best club I've ever used" while the week after the same chap told my mate "I don't favour that club, try this one"...

    Test lots then choose but get fitted by someone that knows what they are doing, unlike my experience at American Golf :0(
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    Re: Good driver for mid - high handicapper

    Quote Originally Posted by wookie View Post
    Learning, learning, learning! Thanks Smiffy.

    How would I know which shaft options are lower launching?
    Well, if you settle on a "quality" make of Driver, like Ping, Titleist, Taylor Made etc. you should get a list of option shafts which show their launch characteristics.
    For me, one of the best lower launching shafts is a Grafalloy ProLaunch "Red"..it has a higher kickpoint, which is what you are after for a low launcher. But there are others out there, Ethan is about the best one to ask for shafts on the forum. He knows a lot (a lot) more than me.
    Like I say, the beauty of a low launching shaft is that you can keep playing with a relatively higher lofted face on the driver and the shaft does the work. I had a 9 degree Callaway driver once, it was great when you caught it well but it was a licence to slice. I now have an 11 degree Ping i15, but the shaft I have fitted to it still keeps it down nice and low, which is great if you are hitting into the wind as the ball won't balloon as much. I have the same shafts fitted to my 3 and 5 wood, and these again stay reasonably low but still get decent run on them (if I hit them that is).
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    Re: Good driver for mid - high handicapper

    Simon I am an expert at doing all the WRONG things to improve your golf, in fact I am so knowledgeable I may well write a book on it!!! So I have a few questions:

    1. What irons do you currently use?
    2. How good is your iron play?
    3. How long is your course?
    4. How many holes do you take driver from the tee?
    5. What is your average drive distance?
    6. Why do you think buying a driver now will help you more than new irons?

    I only ask these questions because you suggest you are in the market for both irons and a driver. You hit mire shots per round with your irons, so in my mind that makes them a priority purchase. That and the fact that a few on here have rated the G2 as a cracking club in it's own right. But if you want a big dog you won't go far wrong sticking with Ping

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    Re: Good driver for mid - high handicapper

    Tiger has a point, but the lure of shiny shiny can sometimes be to strong. In that event, I'd suggest sticking with Ping, the G15 I have is by far the best driver I've had the pleasure of. Whatever you do, go for a fitting though, preferably somewhere you can hit balls out onto a range.

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    Re: Good driver for mid - high handicapper

    1. What irons do you currently use?

    Some old Wilson deep reds

    2. How good is your iron play?

    Definitely room for improvement - still a slight fade but improving and prety confident hitting greens with the shorter ones. No confidence with 5 and longer at the moment.

    3. How long is your course?

    6550

    4. How many holes do you take driver from the tee?

    Varies massively depending on how I'm swinging but if well then probably 11.

    5. What is your average drive distance?

    Dont know - guess 240 - 250

    6. Why do you think buying a driver now will help you more than new irons?

    I see your point below but my thinking is that if I buy some irons now which are above my game then I might suffer badly. My pro had a couple of shots with my irons on a playing lesson and thougth they were nicely weighted for my swing.

    If I buy irons now which are at my current level I'll want / need new ones too soon.

    If I buy a driver now which is around the right level then I can live with that for a few years as my game (hopefully) improves.

    I do like the G2 but think with my height (6'6'') it would make sense to have something fitted.

    Does this make sense?

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    Re: Good driver for mid - high handicapper

    I had my G2 for years and would still have it now if I hadn't cracked the face.
    You could get the driver extended an inch and get some lessons to help cure the fade/slice.
    That would also bring down the height a bit
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    Re: Good driver for mid - high handicapper

    Quote Originally Posted by wookie View Post
    After umming and aahing I think I'm going to go for one soon. (I was going to wait til this time next year as I've only been playing a while but HID suggested buying either irons or driver now rather than both at the same time and I think of the two I'll benefit more waiting for the irons.)

    I currently have a secondhand Ping G2 11.5 degree. No problem getting it airborne so would probably feel comfortable going for a little less loft and tend to fade it slightly.

    Wookie

    You say that you dont have a problem getting the ball in the air, so assuming that you are not constantly skying the ball why do want less loft, less loft will as like as not increase your fade. You have a very good driver right now, had a G2 myself untill earlier this year, its still in reserve (12 degree loft). Not sure what h/cap you are but if you are teens or above you will inevitably hit differing shots no matter what club you use. That said enjoy whatever you buy.

    Any recommendations gratefully received.

    Cheers

    Simon

    PS I'm guessing it would be sensible to hold out til after Christmas but would rather not - will it make a massive difference?
    Wookie

    You say that you dont have a problem getting the ball in the air, so assuming that you are not constantly skying the ball why do want less loft, less loft will as like as not increase your fade. You have a very good driver right now, had a G2 myself untill earlier this year, its still in reserve (12 degree loft). Not sure what h/cap you are but if you are teens or above you will inevitably hit differing shots no matter what club you use. That said enjoy whatever you buy.
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