Yes, Yes you are

Actually when you put it how you have, I wonder why it has such a following. But your reference to thugs is a minority (just like get in da hole)

I was brought up on football, My church was my football club, the collection plate was for my subs and my bible was the white board in the changing room.

We aint all idiots, and most of us enjoy the game as it should be enjoyed, with friends and family with all the banter, a bit of mickey taking when ya rivals get beat by bottom of the league or stuffed by your own side.

I am a united supporter, my best mate supports liverpool, ther is hardly a bigger rivalry in the game, yet we always watch the game together, infact come match day, our local is usually half red half....red

and there is never any trouble, lots of banter yes.

What I do agree with is the way the game is developing is getting out of control but i dont want to get started on that subject.

If I want to forget about football politics, I just pop down the park and watch the local leagues, nothin as good a a magic sponge and a box of oranges to remind you where you come from!