Tried them at a recent demo day and didn't like either the standard or the tour version. Felt quite heavy and couldn't get any consistancy with them in a number of shaft combinations. That said they do look reasonable at address (not the sexiest iron out there) but are a bit pricey (as are most TM clubs) but they will fo a good job for most people. I prefer my R7's and once I put them into my bag the X20's in graphite I've just got (a question of grooving a few swing gremlins from the last lesson and working out the new distances hit)