I just work on the clock face system a la Pelz. A 7.30 swing will get my 56 about 15 yards and my 52 20. A 9 o'clock or half swing goes about 30 for the 56 and 40 for the 52 and a 3/4 or 10.30 swing is about 50 (56) and 70 (52). I think they fly further on the longer swing as it is more or less a proper tunr etc whereas the others are more arm shots with minimal body action.

I have to say it took about 4 months solid practice (at least 3 hours per week solely on small swings) and a lot of frustration to get it even close to comfortable. Even now in comps I have been known to bottle it and play a long bump and run