See i dont actually play any comps being a nomad so if i can get 12 for a 10er, it beats paying 36 quid or whatever they are for new, and they are in no worse condition than a new one would be after a few holes. I must admit it took me a while to find a decent box with the most good looking balls in. The other packs did have a few yellow balls in. but for a the price they really were good value!